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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Dec 3, 2013 15:32:38 GMT -5
no i think her last episode is 10. she is not filming now Most articles I read said that Tori would be in BatB for most of the season, not all. But recently Sherri Cooper said on Twitter that she will be in about 3 more episodes. Who knows! They keep changing their minds but all in all, they like her role in it (they did bring her on to fulfill a particular purpose and they want to see it through) ...they are the ONLY ones who seem to be enjoying her and they don't seem to care that fans don't want her around. Today Catherine Ashton (BATB designer) tweeted this: Catherine Ashton @designingashton 8h Happy Tuesday #Feasties have the very best day fitting today with Cat Tess and Tori xo #Feasties #BATB They are currently filming ep 11? Well, Tori is still there...
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Dec 3, 2013 15:58:59 GMT -5
no i think her last episode is 10. she is not filming now Most articles I read said that Tori would be in BatB for most of the season, not all. But recently Sherri Cooper said on Twitter that she will be in about 3 more episodes. Who knows! They keep changing their minds but all in all, they like her role in it (they did bring her on to fulfill a particular purpose and they want to see it through) ...they are the ONLY ones who seem to be enjoying her and they don't seem to care that fans don't want her around. well latest is she defintiely in 11, hoping that's it
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Post by sunshine978 on Dec 3, 2013 16:27:21 GMT -5
You know, coming to think of it, Vincat have NEVER spent an occasion together - no birthdays, no X'mas, no Valentine's thanks to Alex in the first season and now Tori in Season 2. They are ALWAYS interrupted....and this a is ROMANCE show?!?!?
No dates...NOTHING (tons of interruptions) !! Only "I love you" ONCE in Season 1. Not even "You look beautiful" OR "You take my breath away"....but we had Cat say in the masquerade episode (forgot the name of the episode), "You like the dress?" Vincent, "It's beautiful"......Really?!?! Obviously this 'romance' is not written very well - they 're focussing too much of secondary characters like Alex and Tori for the purpose of drama and are not developing the love story as it should be developed and that is a shame. THat's why so many viewers gave up on the show. When you hear "The Beauty and the BEast", you think of romance and you think the focus would be on Catherine and Vincent but NOT this 2012 version! I NEVER anticipated love triangles...NEVER. I don't watch tv shows because of love triangles and lack of true love and integrity on those shows.....so I was excited when BatB was on but the focussed has changed too much and the show is obviously a very different show from the one I fell in love with in SEason 1 - even the characters are different and it's not enjoyable anymore. It is basically like all the other shows on tv - nothing unique or special anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 20:30:26 GMT -5
You know, coming to think of it, Vincat have NEVER spent an occasion together - no birthdays, no X'mas, no Valentine's thanks to Alex in the first season and now Tori in Season 2. They are ALWAYS interrupted....and this a is ROMANCE show?!?!?
No dates...NOTHING (tons of interruptions) !! Only "I love you" ONCE in Season 1. Not even "You look beautiful" OR "You take my breath away"....but we had Cat say in the masquerade episode (forgot the name of the episode), "You like the dress?" Vincent, "It's beautiful"......Really?!?! Obviously this 'romance' is not written very well - they 're focussing too much of secondary characters like Alex and Tori for the purpose of drama and are not developing the love story as it should be developed and that is a shame. THat's why so many viewers gave up on the show. When you hear "The Beauty and the BEast", you think of romance and you think the focus would be on Catherine and Vincent but NOT this 2012 version! I NEVER anticipated love triangles...NEVER. I don't watch tv shows because of love triangles and lack of true love and integrity on those shows.....so I was excited when BatB was on but the focussed has changed too much and the show is obviously a very different show from the one I fell in love with in SEason 1 - even the characters are different and it's not enjoyable anymore. It is basically like all the other shows on tv - nothing unique or special anymore. Tori too will pass, beasties; I have every intention of outlasting her. And I agree; I would love an episode that is entirely about the romance; where we see Vincat actually having fun together. What a concept!
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Dec 4, 2013 3:01:53 GMT -5
You know, coming to think of it, Vincat have NEVER spent an occasion together - no birthdays, no X'mas, no Valentine's thanks to Alex in the first season and now Tori in Season 2. They are ALWAYS interrupted....and this a is ROMANCE show?!?!?
No dates...NOTHING (tons of interruptions) !! Only "I love you" ONCE in Season 1. Not even "You look beautiful" OR "You take my breath away"....but we had Cat say in the masquerade episode (forgot the name of the episode), "You like the dress?" Vincent, "It's beautiful"......Really?!?! Obviously this 'romance' is not written very well - they 're focussing too much of secondary characters like Alex and Tori for the purpose of drama and are not developing the love story as it should be developed and that is a shame. THat's why so many viewers gave up on the show. When you hear "The Beauty and the BEast", you think of romance and you think the focus would be on Catherine and Vincent but NOT this 2012 version! I NEVER anticipated love triangles...NEVER. I don't watch tv shows because of love triangles and lack of true love and integrity on those shows.....so I was excited when BatB was on but the focussed has changed too much and the show is obviously a very different show from the one I fell in love with in SEason 1 - even the characters are different and it's not enjoyable anymore. It is basically like all the other shows on tv - nothing unique or special anymore. i dont see romance as them exchanging valentine cards and saying i love you to each other. i see the idea of two people who would normally never be together fighting against the odds to be together as very romantic though. plus romance is also manifested through glances, non verbal communication etc etc and we have had plenty of those as well I feel. Less so in season 2 but for obvious reasons - and these will come back later on in the season as well i am sure
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Post by Ilaria on Dec 4, 2013 5:05:44 GMT -5
Steven A. Adelson
On the set of #batb day 3. It was gusting 90/kh... It was cold and a little wet, but the cast and crew, fought through the elements and delivered. One of my most memorable days of filmmaking.
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Post by evanarose on Dec 7, 2013 6:14:46 GMT -5
Ekkk....It feels like the more roar there is on twitter, etc about Tori....The more the writers would consider keeping her on!!
I mean the writers may see 'Tori as being a character who is really grabbing attention and causing a stir.' They would get alot of responses/comments about her...so they think what they are writing is working in a way....even if the comments maybe be negative....they know they are causing a reaction and that the fans are emotionally involved in the show...I guess they are thinking the more conflict/issues they put b/t vincat, the more effective their makeup will be. They know that fans will want vincat back even more..
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Post by ragulr25 on Dec 7, 2013 6:21:28 GMT -5
Ekkk....It feels like the more roar there is on twitter, etc about Tori....The more the writers would consider keeping her on!! I mean the writers may see 'Tori as being a character who is really grabbing attention and causing a stir.' They would get alot of responses/comments about her...so they think what they are writing is working in a way....even if the comments maybe be negative....they know they are causing a reaction and that the fans are emotionally involved in the show...I guess they are thinking the more conflict/issues they put b/t vincat, the more effective their makeup will be. They know that fans will want vincat back even more..
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Dec 7, 2013 6:24:46 GMT -5
Steven A. Adelson
On the set of #batb day 3. It was gusting 90/kh... It was cold and a little wet, but the cast and crew, fought through the elements and delivered. One of my most memorable days of filmmaking. He directed Ancestor ep 10 not this one which as we now know is the one Vincent goes on The Talk LOL
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Dec 7, 2013 11:16:18 GMT -5
You know, coming to think of it, Vincat have NEVER spent an occasion together - no birthdays, no X'mas, no Valentine's thanks to Alex in the first season and now Tori in Season 2. They are ALWAYS interrupted....and this a is ROMANCE show?!?!?
No dates...NOTHING (tons of interruptions) !! Only "I love you" ONCE in Season 1. Not even "You look beautiful" OR "You take my breath away"....but we had Cat say in the masquerade episode (forgot the name of the episode), "You like the dress?" Vincent, "It's beautiful"......Really?!?! Obviously this 'romance' is not written very well - they 're focussing too much of secondary characters like Alex and Tori for the purpose of drama and are not developing the love story as it should be developed and that is a shame. THat's why so many viewers gave up on the show. When you hear "The Beauty and the BEast", you think of romance and you think the focus would be on Catherine and Vincent but NOT this 2012 version! I NEVER anticipated love triangles...NEVER. I don't watch tv shows because of love triangles and lack of true love and integrity on those shows.....so I was excited when BatB was on but the focussed has changed too much and the show is obviously a very different show from the one I fell in love with in SEason 1 - even the characters are different and it's not enjoyable anymore. It is basically like all the other shows on tv - nothing unique or special anymore. I think it is true that you don't need the words "I love you" per say when you have actors as good as JR and KK to portray the romance and the love. The problem, of course being that we are not seeing as much of the longing and eyesex in S2 as we did in S1. Even the writers couldn't not stop that runaway train from intersecting in season 1 because of the way the two of them looked at each other… All the outside stuff, hearts, flowers, romance, script is just fluff, with that kind of chemistry. The story has moved them so far apart now, that it is hard for them to get back to looking at each other that way if you ask me. They don't need a bunch of dates as much as a few good scenes to convey the depth of their emotion… a few looks of love, of longing, angst even. NO outside influences or plot devices - NO redheads. Period. We already feel the angst, they don't need to create it with a freaking plot device or love triangle. It's just that simple.
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Dec 7, 2013 11:47:58 GMT -5
You know, coming to think of it, Vincat have NEVER spent an occasion together - no birthdays, no X'mas, no Valentine's thanks to Alex in the first season and now Tori in Season 2. They are ALWAYS interrupted....and this a is ROMANCE show?!?!?
No dates...NOTHING (tons of interruptions) !! Only "I love you" ONCE in Season 1. Not even "You look beautiful" OR "You take my breath away"....but we had Cat say in the masquerade episode (forgot the name of the episode), "You like the dress?" Vincent, "It's beautiful"......Really?!?! Obviously this 'romance' is not written very well - they 're focussing too much of secondary characters like Alex and Tori for the purpose of drama and are not developing the love story as it should be developed and that is a shame. THat's why so many viewers gave up on the show. When you hear "The Beauty and the BEast", you think of romance and you think the focus would be on Catherine and Vincent but NOT this 2012 version! I NEVER anticipated love triangles...NEVER. I don't watch tv shows because of love triangles and lack of true love and integrity on those shows.....so I was excited when BatB was on but the focussed has changed too much and the show is obviously a very different show from the one I fell in love with in SEason 1 - even the characters are different and it's not enjoyable anymore. It is basically like all the other shows on tv - nothing unique or special anymore. so now s1 had not a romance because there were no dates or more "i love u"?? IMO, 1sy season was one of the most romantic seasons I have seen in any show... Sometimes we don't need so many words but more facts... and we had so many of them I don't know where to start from... Anyway... just my opinion... Only sad that people is starting to bash even on season 1..
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Post by stayingwithBATB4ever on Dec 7, 2013 13:20:33 GMT -5
You know, coming to think of it, Vincat have NEVER spent an occasion together - no birthdays, no X'mas, no Valentine's thanks to Alex in the first season and now Tori in Season 2. They are ALWAYS interrupted....and this a is ROMANCE show?!?!?
No dates...NOTHING (tons of interruptions) !! Only "I love you" ONCE in Season 1. Not even "You look beautiful" OR "You take my breath away"....but we had Cat say in the masquerade episode (forgot the name of the episode), "You like the dress?" Vincent, "It's beautiful"......Really?!?! Obviously this 'romance' is not written very well - they 're focussing too much of secondary characters like Alex and Tori for the purpose of drama and are not developing the love story as it should be developed and that is a shame. THat's why so many viewers gave up on the show. When you hear "The Beauty and the BEast", you think of romance and you think the focus would be on Catherine and Vincent but NOT this 2012 version! I NEVER anticipated love triangles...NEVER. I don't watch tv shows because of love triangles and lack of true love and integrity on those shows.....so I was excited when BatB was on but the focussed has changed too much and the show is obviously a very different show from the one I fell in love with in SEason 1 - even the characters are different and it's not enjoyable anymore. It is basically like all the other shows on tv - nothing unique or special anymore. so now s1 had not a romance because there were no dates or more "i love u"?? IMO, 1sy season was one of the most romantic seasons I have seen in any show... Sometimes we don't need so many words but more facts... and we had so many of them I don't know where to start from... Anyway... just my opinion... Only sad that people is starting to bash even on season 1.. agree 100% IMO actions speak lauder than words, for me a look,small detail, move (doing whatever it takes to see that person among all the difficulties, risking everything, even their own lives, to help each other, etc) there are so many that I could be writing all the afternoon lol, well for me that is ten thousands of times better than saying 'I love you' all the time. and sometimes is not what you say but 'how' you say it and how you look at that person when saying it (i.e. APM dress scene ) anyway, about words..if "I don't know what to do know because I can't live without you" or "Catherine I couldn't handle losing you, alright I couldn't live, I wouldn't want to", is not romantic, if this is not the biggest 'proof' of true love, then what is??? for me, this is the most romantic show I've ever seen, romance in S1 is amazing in very single way, and different from other shows IMO
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Post by raniamahd on Dec 7, 2013 14:41:26 GMT -5
agree 100% IMO actions speak lauder than words, for me a look,small detail, move (doing whatever it takes to see that person among all the difficulties, risking everything, even their own lives, to help each other, etc) there are so many that I could be writing all the afternoon lol, well for me that is ten thousands of times better than saying 'I love you' all the time. and sometimes is not what you say but 'how' you say it and how you look at that person when saying it (i.e. APM dress scene ) anyway, about words..if "I don't know what to do know because I can't live without you" or "Catherine I couldn't handle losing you, alright I couldn't live, I wouldn't want to", is not romantic, if this is not the biggest 'proof' of true love, then what is??? for me, this is the most romantic show I've ever seen, romance in S1 is amazing in very single way, and different from other shows IMO it is true , for me too that was one of the most romantic show i've seen i watch almost all the kind of tv series , but i always search for a romantic show to give it my energy , so i was so happy last year when i found BATB i even felt the romance from the early episodes befor they became a couple can i give some examples for some scenes and lines i fond it very romance ? 1- you are not fake you are the real thing ( with the way they looked at each other ) and also that when Cat wrote about her idea of the perfect guy it was all about Vincent 2- the whole scene of (who you are what makes every thing worth) + V confess he was jealous and Cat happy with this 3-You see me when I don’t want anyone to see me, and you still haven’t run 4-You are the best thing in my life right now (Cat said this to him in her birthday episode if i remember it well ?) 5- my normal is when i am with you , i don't need walls or door and of course (If we're together, we can overcome anything) and (we against the world)
so sad for me i don't feel that romance again in s2 ?! only in e4, i felt a little of season 1 magic and romance !!!
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Post by bbat on Dec 7, 2013 15:05:14 GMT -5
Savana, staying withBATBforever and raniamahd, You’re so right with everything you’re saying!!!!
It’s not about saying "I love you” all time. I’m glad they didn’t! They don’t need to, if the actors are capable of portraying the feelings in other ways. Sometimes words only cheapen it!
The great thing about season 1 was that they managed to make the love scenes to be romantic without being cheesy! I too have seen so many TV shows in my life, but never a love story like this. It was perfection. I can’t find other words for it. It felt like watching 2 real people in love.
It’s not only about the "romantic” dialogue, the kissing, or lovemaking. In season 1 we didn’t get to see a kiss till ep 114. Yes, the intimate love scenes were done with perfection too, but even before there were scenes I re-watched like a 100 times (just to mention the art studio scene in ep 106 or the dance in ep 109)
And I so miss it! I want our season 1 Vincent back, I want the Vincat moments back, the intense dialogs, the intense portrayal of feelings, the moments when you felt the world was standing still just by the two of them looking at each other.
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