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Post by raniamahd on Jan 19, 2014 11:36:16 GMT -5
Thanks, anapi...so she's telling us that we have to hang in until E15 to really get Vincat back....I'm sure we will be really teased the 4 episodes in between! FUN! FUN! FUN! yeap well they get together between 15 and 16 10 they are frenemies 11-14 building up to the 15-16 moments can't wait i don't understand this word ( frenemies) any way i think the building up for e15,16 will start from e13 but e10 ,11 and maybe even 12 will be like @locaxbatb said FUN!FUN!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 11:43:29 GMT -5
yeap well they get together between 15 and 16 10 they are frenemies 11-14 building up to the 15-16 moments can't wait i don't understand this word ( frenemies) any way i think the building up for e15,16 will start from e13 but e10 ,11 and maybe even 12 will be like @locaxbatb said FUN!FUN!
VinCat attacking each other as enemies is far from my idea of fun. People will say that they'll be working together so they aren't enemies, but the key word for me is "forced". VinCat having to endure each other's presence against their will really makes me want to .
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Jan 19, 2014 11:52:53 GMT -5
yeap well they get together between 15 and 16 10 they are frenemies 11-14 building up to the 15-16 moments can't wait i don't understand this word ( frenemies) any way i think the building up for e15,16 will start from e13 but e10 ,11 and maybe even 12 will be like @locaxbatb said FUN!FUN!
Frenemies = Friends + enemies
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 19, 2014 11:53:39 GMT -5
By now, haven't we usually heard from someone who has viewed most of the episode? I remember reading partial reviews before viewing the episode - just wondering usually that happens with key episodes, such as the premiere or mid season premiere etc etc
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Jan 19, 2014 11:54:14 GMT -5
i don't understand this word ( frenemies) any way i think the building up for e15,16 will start from e13 but e10 ,11 and maybe even 12 will be like @locaxbatb said FUN!FUN!
VinCat attacking each other as enemies is far from my idea of fun. People will say that they'll be working together so they aren't enemies, but the key word for me is "forced". VinCat having to endure each other's presence against their will really makes me want to . I think it's against their will because neither of them want to feel pain by seeing the one they love(d) so much, not because they hate each other. So actually IMO these meetings are great because it will force them to admit that that love is far away from gone!
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Post by Jubilant Judi on Jan 19, 2014 11:55:13 GMT -5
By now, haven't we usually heard from someone who has viewed most of the episode? I remember reading partial reviews before viewing the episode - just wondering usually that happens with key episodes, such as the premiere or mid season premiere etc etc Thank you
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 19, 2014 11:55:17 GMT -5
i don't understand this word ( frenemies) any way i think the building up for e15,16 will start from e13 but e10 ,11 and maybe even 12 will be like @locaxbatb said FUN!FUN!
VinCat attacking each other as enemies is far from my idea of fun. People will say that they'll be working together so they aren't enemies, but the key word for me is "forced". VinCat having to endure each other's presence against their will really makes me want to . lol ok they really dont want to be in each other's presence and they merely have to endure it, I say not. That is what they are saying but that is not how they are feeling, very evident even from a 30 second sneak peak
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Post by raniamahd on Jan 19, 2014 12:10:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 12:47:01 GMT -5
VinCat attacking each other as enemies is far from my idea of fun. People will say that they'll be working together so they aren't enemies, but the key word for me is "forced". VinCat having to endure each other's presence against their will really makes me want to . you have to ask Mr. Kern about that dear ? he is the one who described those episodes and the (Mr. and Mrs. Smith style) as FUN but for me the face i used is my opinion of his thoughts and as i said many time before i just want those episodes to pass and see if they told us the truth about the up coming episodes ? or again all we will get is a slap in the face !
I know you don't agree with me, and, as you know, I like varying opinions. I feel that the state of their relationship right now necessitates some childish behaviour before they are both ready to sit down, examine their true feelings, come to terms with their own and each other's contribution to the present situation and begin to trust each other enough to come clean, to be truly honest with their feelings. Right now it is just much easier to act like frenemies. They are not ready to face each other, but the fact that their lives are intertwined, wether they know it or not, like it or not, "forces" them to be in the same place at the same time and to have to work together. Ironically, they need to be together if they are ever to move forward and get to the point where they can talk honestly. So luckily, fate/destiny...keeps throwing them together no matter how hard they try to resist. That's just my take on the situation.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 19, 2014 13:03:29 GMT -5
you have to ask Mr. Kern about that dear ? he is the one who described those episodes and the (Mr. and Mrs. Smith style) as FUN but for me the face i used is my opinion of his thoughts and as i said many time before i just want those episodes to pass and see if they told us the truth about the up coming episodes ? or again all we will get is a slap in the face !
I know you don't agree with me, and, as you know, I like varying opinions. I feel that the state of their relationship right now necessitates some childish behaviour before they are both ready to sit down, examine their true feelings, come to terms with their own and each other's contribution to the present situation and begin to trust each other enough to come clean, to be truly honest with their feelings. Right now it is just much easier to act like frenemies. They are not ready to face each other, but the fact that their lives are intertwined, wether they know it or not, like it or not, "forces" them to be in the same place at the same time and to have to work together. Ironically, they need to be together if they are ever to move forward and get to the point where they can talk honestly. So luckily, fate/destiny...keeps throwing them together no matter how hard they try to resist. That's just my take on the situation. ditto
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Jan 19, 2014 13:53:47 GMT -5
some thing must be said here ? Tori doesn't make it easy for me to sympathize with her because if you want others to be kind to you ? you must behave yourself and act polite and nice , but Tori is so arrogant , rude , and loses even the simple rules of good behavior! first when you kiss another woman boyfriend the less you must do is apologies ! specially if that woman was nothing but nice to you ?! in e7 did any one hear her say sorry to Cat ? that some thing any other woman could do , no matter what is the reason of the kiss was but there is a woman who treated you polite and nice and you are a guest in her father's house and she saw you kissing her boyfriend , so prove you has good manners and say sorry but she didn't , and in e8 she still had the chance to say it with thanks Cathrine for accepting my in your house and keep trying to help me after what i did , yes i know Cat was trying to help V in the first place but that doesn't change the fact that she helped Tori too and accept her as a guest in her house and that for polite people deserve a small thank you and sorry ! and in e9 when she told Cat same thing like (how dare you to came here after shooting him ) my reaction was like , what ?! remind me again who are you and where are you ? are you in your house ? are you his sister , his girlfriend or even his friend ?! even if Cat did the most horrible thing on the world, it isn't up to her to say even one word to Cat because its a personal matter between her and V, and Tori is a total stranger and when V came down he told Tori to give them some privacy because guess what you spoiled brat ? its personal and not of your damn business and in the promo to refer to Cat be her and says it like she spits it
no :-[that are not us (us refer to those who can't stand Tori) who have no mercy or sympathy on an orphan little girl ? but the writers did all the efforts to make sure we would not like her at all ! not just they introduced her in a wrong way , make her like a threat to vincat relation with the stupid kiss and her bad effect on V , but if they want us to understand her motives or have any kind feeling for her they could write her to be more better person , to have at least some or even little good manners ? but no the wrote her to be : selfish spoiled brat , arrogant , rude ,obtrusive ----etc my point is : if you want people to be kind to you treat them first politely and nicely ?! and that is some thing T never did !
Please bear with me as I'll be rambling! As I see it: - Tori was not raised in a nurturing environment by 2 loving parents. Her parents were divorced, her mother died years ago & her father was a ruthless businessman. She led an isolated life & obviously was not taught to be polite, loving or kind. - I fully agree when you say: "my point is : if you want people to be kind to you treat them first politely and nicely ?! and that is some thing T never did ! " Unfortunate, she was never taught this.
- Basically, everything comes down to worth. Is she worth treating with kindness, sympathy & caring? Or should she be shut out, ignored or hated. If Vincent had simply abandoned her & turned his back on her, would we say she deserved it. - Do I like her? Not particularly. Do I feel sorry for her? Yes! -In 209, at the Curio Shop, Tori saved Catherine from being shot. I feel she's starting to learn by example. And, IMO, she honestly cares for Vincent because he has been kind to her. Not because she wants into his bed! - When the writers first mentioned Tori, they said it would be a 4 episode arc, and if the fans liked her she would be a regular. Immediately, the uproar started & she was bad-mouthed & hated sight unseen! The poor girl never had a chance! - She will be gone after 212, I just hope they don't kill her off! I would like to have her stay in contact & come visit in the future, so we can see what she's done with her life & her father's $$$.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 19, 2014 13:57:52 GMT -5
some thing must be said here ? Tori doesn't make it easy for me to sympathize with her because if you want others to be kind to you ? you must behave yourself and act polite and nice , but Tori is so arrogant , rude , and loses even the simple rules of good behavior! first when you kiss another woman boyfriend the less you must do is apologies ! specially if that woman was nothing but nice to you ?! in e7 did any one hear her say sorry to Cat ? that some thing any other woman could do , no matter what is the reason of the kiss was but there is a woman who treated you polite and nice and you are a guest in her father's house and she saw you kissing her boyfriend , so prove you has good manners and say sorry but she didn't , and in e8 she still had the chance to say it with thanks Cathrine for accepting my in your house and keep trying to help me after what i did , yes i know Cat was trying to help V in the first place but that doesn't change the fact that she helped Tori too and accept her as a guest in her house and that for polite people deserve a small thank you and sorry ! and in e9 when she told Cat same thing like (how dare you to came here after shooting him ) my reaction was like , what ?! remind me again who are you and where are you ? are you in your house ? are you his sister , his girlfriend or even his friend ?! even if Cat did the most horrible thing on the world, it isn't up to her to say even one word to Cat because its a personal matter between her and V, and Tori is a total stranger and when V came down he told Tori to give them some privacy because guess what you spoiled brat ? its personal and not of your damn business and in the promo to refer to Cat be her and says it like she spits it
no :-[that are not us (us refer to those who can't stand Tori) who have no mercy or sympathy on an orphan little girl ? but the writers did all the efforts to make sure we would not like her at all ! not just they introduced her in a wrong way , make her like a threat to vincat relation with the stupid kiss and her bad effect on V , but if they want us to understand her motives or have any kind feeling for her they could write her to be more better person , to have at least some or even little good manners ? but no the wrote her to be : selfish spoiled brat , arrogant , rude ,obtrusive ----etc my point is : if you want people to be kind to you treat them first politely and nicely ?! and that is some thing T never did !
Please bear with me as I'll be rambling! As I see it: - Tori was not raised in a nurturing environment by 2 loving parents. Her parents were divorced, her mother died years ago & her father was a ruthless businessman. She led an isolated life & obviously was not taught to be polite, loving or kind. - I fully agree when you say: "my point is : if you want people to be kind to you treat them first politely and nicely ?! and that is some thing T never did ! " Unfortunate, she was never taught this.
- Basically, everything comes down to worth. Is she worth treating with kindness, sympathy & caring? Or should she be shut out, ignored or hated. If Vincent had simply abandoned her & turned his back on her, would we say she deserved it. - Do I like her? Not particularly. Do I feel sorry for her? Yes! -In 209, at the Curio Shop, Tori saved Catherine from being shot. I feel she's starting to learn by example. And, IMO, she honestly cares for Vincent because he has been kind to her. Not because she wants into his bed! - When the writers first mentioned Tori, they said it would be a 4 episode arc, and if the fans liked her she would be a regular. Immediately, the uproar started & she was bad-mouthed & hated sight unseen! The poor girl never had a chance! - She will be gone after 212, I just hope they don't kill her off! I would like to have her stay in contact & come visit in the future, so we can see what she's done with her life & her father's $$$.
i feel sorry for her too to some extent and i agree she genuinely cares about vincent but i also think she is interested in him romantically, she is falling for him though he is not interested
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Jan 19, 2014 14:13:10 GMT -5
i don't understand this word ( frenemies) any way i think the building up for e15,16 will start from e13 but e10 ,11 and maybe even 12 will be like @locaxbatb said FUN!FUN!
VinCat attacking each other as enemies is far from my idea of fun. People will say that they'll be working together so they aren't enemies, but the key word for me is "forced". VinCat having to endure each other's presence against their will really makes me want to . IMO, being "forced to work together" is probably the best thing at this point! They are both fairly stubborn & left alone, neither one would take that first step to reconciliation. Too busy telling themselves that they're over each other.
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Jan 19, 2014 15:33:02 GMT -5
So, after last article released... maybe that kiss in the shadows is Cat-Gabe? What do you think??
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jan 19, 2014 15:37:54 GMT -5
So, after last article released... maybe that kiss in the shadows is Cat-Gabe? What do you think?? still don't think so but never say never
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