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Post by stayingwithBATB4ever on Nov 23, 2013 13:26:39 GMT -5
lol are we sure thsi guy is a love interest? i ahve actually watched him in teen wolf (see link, not that good looking there lol) www.imdb.com/media/rm2302259456/nm0092026oh and please dont judge me for watching teen wolf, i do quite like it in a teenagie type of way lol not judging here. coz i too love that show. and i'm sure i'm older than u but in my defense, it's how i spend time with my hormonal imbalance teenage son next season early jan, same as batb if i'm not mistaken. hope not another competitor on the same day AGAIN! not judging either, I've been a Twilight fan for years I haven't seen Teen Wolf and didn't know who this actor was...I'm looking for him at google, he is good looking...mmmmm
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 23, 2013 13:31:41 GMT -5
yeah but she's on Vincent and Vincat's side for the first 20 minutes. What happens the rest of the epi? If Vincat are broken up, I'm not sure by the end of the episode, we will be on team Vincent/Vincat side. So if there is a cliffhanger, and we know that C and V have different ideas for catching Reynolds and Tori convinces V to kill Reynolds, he is about to do it when Cat shoots him, and then there is a scene at the boathouse where he is stitching himself up and T walks in, this will be towards the end of the epi, so what could the cliffhanger be? I can't think of anything other than, will V be able to fight T's advances? And just as things are getting heated, C witnesses/walks in on them? I don't know. Thoughts? And if our faith is restored in V, she only saw the first 20 minutes so somehow I think our feelings will change by the end. did she actually say the "first" 20? she did yes
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 23, 2013 13:36:58 GMT -5
This is a little off topic but it pertains to what is going on with BATB and Season 2. I was watching a show and it was talking to the star of The Big Bang Theory and they asked him what makes their show so successful. He said it is the writers, how they write the characters and stay true to the characters and focus on what the fans want but still keep it fresh and interesting. That to me is exactly what the writers of BATB needed to do to keep the audience from last season and draw in new fans, but unfortunately did not. Staying true to the characters was the key here for me, they changed Vincent so much in Season 2 that I don't even recognize him. IMO he is cold, arrogant and talks to Cat disrespectfully, Vincent 1.0 never did any of those things and I loved him for that. Now, based on what Brad Kern has said it looks like this is the Vincent we get from now on because he has all his memories back and I for one am truly disappointed. We can make any excuse for his behavior but it is not staying true to what originally attracted fans to Season 1. to be fair though the viewership has not changed much at all since the first episode aired. so very few people tuned in to watch in the first place. i am confident that if people watched say the first episode of this season they would be more likely to stick to the show than if they had watched the first episode of last season. i really think that. so i dont think the direction of the show affected ratings since few people tuned in to watch the show and those who did tune in have stayed (up till now at least)
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Post by Beastly Beauty on Nov 23, 2013 17:15:44 GMT -5
Someone mentioned that the explanation for ToriCent infamous "connection" is that they put out their emotions and that's not necessarily bad. If it's that so, are we to believe that Vincent only has "emotions" towards Tori? Because right after the insufferable kiss he went after Cat, psycho bio dad told him that Cat was crying and it hit a blank wall. His emotions were pretty much in check. Therefore, he’s so famous “emotions” only exist around Tori. If that’s not tarnishing VinCat, I don’t know what is. I got really mad when I read that. TPTB are saying those things only with the purpose of damage control, but I think they’re pretty much making it worse. I still don't believe that we aren't ready to take the ToriCent train towars destruction. It's really good to be invisible. It really makes you feel welcomed here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2013 17:23:31 GMT -5
This is a little off topic but it pertains to what is going on with BATB and Season 2. I was watching a show and it was talking to the star of The Big Bang Theory and they asked him what makes their show so successful. He said it is the writers, how they write the characters and stay true to the characters and focus on what the fans want but still keep it fresh and interesting. That to me is exactly what the writers of BATB needed to do to keep the audience from last season and draw in new fans, but unfortunately did not. Staying true to the characters was the key here for me, they changed Vincent so much in Season 2 that I don't even recognize him. IMO he is cold, arrogant and talks to Cat disrespectfully, Vincent 1.0 never did any of those things and I loved him for that. Now, based on what Brad Kern has said it looks like this is the Vincent we get from now on because he has all his memories back and I for one am truly disappointed. We can make any excuse for his behavior but it is not staying true to what originally attracted fans to Season 1. to be fair though the viewership has not changed much at all since the first episode aired. so very few people tuned in to watch in the first place. i am confident that if people watched say the first episode of this season they would be more likely to stick to the show than if they had watched the first episode of last season. i really think that. so i dont think the direction of the show affected ratings since few people tuned in to watch the show and those who did tune in have stayed (up till now at least) People didn't come back due to the announcement of Tori's character, pure and simple. I know about 3 fans that left exactly because of that. I even tried to convince them otherwise. I was naive enough to believe TPTB wouldn't betray us again and that's why I came back. I regret my decision now. I could have only the beautiful memory of S1 in my head instead of another woman that made Vincent abandon Cat and it's more fit to him.
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Nov 23, 2013 17:39:22 GMT -5
Okay....so....did I miss something? I thought we found out that Tori's character isn't a "love" interest?!? Now we are back to "beast-on-beast mating?" Is this confirmed?
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Post by sweetrosie29 on Nov 23, 2013 17:41:44 GMT -5
Jaykris that is my problem too I just don't think that the writer's won't go down the beast on best part becuase for me they have more than tarnished Vincent they have totally changed him and not for the good on most part, his treatment and attitude towards Cat has been disgusting at times and the old Vincent would never have done or said the things he has to Cat. And according to a articles about spoilers there is a attraction with Vincent/Tori and they are going to contiune with it (puke)and I really don't know how many beasties will want to come back after the hiatus to keep watching that. This Vincent is cold, arrogant and barks at Cat at times when she is trying to help him but was willing to jump into bed with her guess that was just his primal urges coming out to play again like they will with Tori by all accounts. I don't see why they couldn't have mixed seson 1 Vincent with seson 2 Vincent becuase if this version of Vincent is still going to the same with his memories back then I'd rather re watch seson 1, and the other day I did watch some of sesaon 1 and it made me realize just ow much I missed that Vincent and how drastic they have changed him and it made me and also to think they could do that and expect fan's to be jumping for joy about it. And I don't think it will be a case of will Vincent be able to fight any advances by Tori it's will he want to becuase it did'nt stop him in the woods with his lame ' I can't' and then went in for the kiss just the same and she did'nt excatly have to fend him off or force him to kiss her he did it becuase he wanted to, and to be honest it's giving animals a bad name becuase all becuase one animal may want another one of their species it's not always wanted by the other one and they have to walk away and accept it, Vince chose not to walk away but engage with Tori who he told Cat ' is like me' so why not. I've said this before so sorry for rapeating myselkf but for me Vincent showed no emotion and no caring after Cat witnessed the kiss and gave up and let her walk away very easily and proceeeded to look back in Tori's direction like he wanted to be back in that spot more than be with Cat and also when her dad told him she was upstairs crying again nothing and showed more concern when he thought Tori was in danger and that's just wrong
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 23, 2013 17:46:56 GMT -5
Okay....so....did I miss something? I thought we found out that Tori's character isn't a "love" interest?!? Now we are back to "beast-on-beast mating?" Is this confirmed? nope it ain't...not at all all i know is that ksite guy said there is no beast mating or sex at all and their bond/attraction is of a non sexual nature...
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Post by sweetrosie29 on Nov 23, 2013 17:55:37 GMT -5
I think it's becuase there is a article where it's been stated that there is a attraction between Vincent and Tori and it basically implies that it is becuase they are the same type and the writers are going to contiune to play with it and let it contiune so for me and many that is saying that she is a love interest for Vincent so to be honest i'm glad that they have split while he sorts out his primal urges, and that maybe Cat is going to have some loving don't get me wrong two wrongs don't make a right but so far we have seen Vincent lock lips with 3 different women while Cat has focused on Vincent and could have gone with Evan but did'nt, and actually did feel guilty that maybe Vincent saw them at her party and went straight to him to explain becuase she was starting to have feelings for Vincent but he couldn't do the same with Alex or with Tori back so I can see why some fan's did'nt wait around to see how the Tori thing worked out I did becuase I'd hoped I'd be wrong but sadly I'm not, and at the moment I can't watch any episodes until it comes back on in the UK as the site I was watching them on as been blocked by my server but to be honest if they are going to keep Tori in and for her and Vince to get up and cosy and even more then it's not a bad thing, I did'nt like their first interaction in the woods and that for me was the writers making it very clear and loud where they were going to head with their pairing and then we had the kiss so for me maybe that I can't get the episodes on line won't be a bad thing. And now the writers are paying for their mistake and it's not going to get any better and I think sadly the rtatings won't either so a possible 3rd season is going to be a very long and hard fight to win even more so than a 2nd I feel and that would sadden me becuase I want to see Vincat back together with JT and Tess fighting the good fight like in season 1 but I really don't.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 23, 2013 18:03:52 GMT -5
I think it's becuase there is a article where it's been stated that there is a attraction between Vincent and Tori and it basically implies that it is becuase they are the same type and the writers are going to contiune to play with it and let it contiune so for me and many that is saying that she is a love interest for Vincent so to be honest i'm glad that they have split while he sorts out his primal urges, and that maybe Cat is going to have some loving don't get me wrong two wrongs don't make a right but so far we have seen Vincent lock lips with 3 different women while Cat has focused on Vincent and could have gone with Evan but did'nt, and actually did feel guilty that maybe Vincent saw them at her party and went straight to him to explain becuase she was starting to have feelings for Vincent but he couldn't do the same with Alex or with Tori back so I can see why some fan's did'nt wait around to see how the Tori thing worked out I did becuase I'd hoped I'd be wrong but sadly I'm not, and at the moment I can't watch any episodes until it comes back on in the UK as the site I was watching them on as been blocked by my server but to be honest if they are going to keep Tori in and for her and Vince to get up and cosy and even more then it's not a bad thing, I did'nt like their first interaction in the woods and that for me was the writers making it very clear and loud where they were going to head with their pairing and then we had the kiss so for me maybe that I can't get the episodes on line won't be a bad thing. And now the writers are paying for their mistake and it's not going to get any better and I think sadly the rtatings won't either so a possible 3rd season is going to be a very long and hard fight to win even more so than a 2nd I feel and that would sadden me becuase I want to see Vincat back together with JT and Tess fighting the good fight like in season 1 but I really don't. i know which site u are talking about, they have blocked a few in the u.k. but u can use tunnelbear if u have it (easy to download) and watch the same site since it is not blocked in the U.S. or other countries. i also use tunnelbear to watch the show on the actual cw site to improve ratings i also know of another site very similar to the one u are talking about which has the episode straight after it airs in canada. i can pm u this if u are interested
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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Nov 23, 2013 18:14:36 GMT -5
Okay....so....did I miss something? I thought we found out that Tori's character isn't a "love" interest?!? Now we are back to "beast-on-beast mating?" Is this confirmed? nope it ain't...not at all all i know is that ksite guy said there is no beast mating or sex at all and their bond/attraction is of a non sexual nature... To me it seems plausible that TPTB have realized that this Tori fiasco really wasn't a good idea & in attempt to fix things, have decided to take the episodes already filmed & re-edit to change things. That would account for some of the conflicting "will they, won't they" articles we are coming across! I for one prefer to believe the Brad Kern "official line" that Tori isn't a love interest for Vincent.
I will be watching S02 till the end as I've watched a lot crappier shows than this, in the hopes that things will get better. Some do, some don't. A "former Summer Addiction" of mine had 2 great seasons, the 3rd was WTF & 4th was crap! I've decided to watch 3 episodes of S05 [because I really like some of the supporting characters] & if the show hasn't returned to S01 & 2 level, I'm gone. In other words, I do not give up easily!!
But everyone has to do what they feel they can live with. TV is supposed to be entertainment. If it no longer entertains you, it's time to move on. Nothing wrong with that. I've done it & survived.
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Nov 23, 2013 20:52:15 GMT -5
Okay....so....did I miss something? I thought we found out that Tori's character isn't a "love" interest?!? Now we are back to "beast-on-beast mating?" Is this confirmed? nope it ain't...not at all all i know is that ksite guy said there is no beast mating or sex at all and their bond/attraction is of a non sexual nature... Thank you for clearing that up, anapi! Sometimes it is hard to distinguish between a true "spoiler" and "speculation"! Personally, I am not too worried about "beast on she-beast mating." Do not think that is the intent (at least I am hoping it is not). I do believe we will have a very jealous Catherine, though AND soon a very jealous Vincent (great news and so much fun!)! From there....VINCAT! BTW....anyone hoping that this mid-season epi is as good as "Bridesmaid Up"? That was the PERFECT episode!
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Nov 24, 2013 0:24:38 GMT -5
nope it ain't...not at all all i know is that ksite guy said there is no beast mating or sex at all and their bond/attraction is of a non sexual nature... Thank you for clearing that up, anapi! Sometimes it is hard to distinguish between a true "spoiler" and "speculation"! Personally, I am not too worried about "beast on she-beast mating." Do not think that is the intent (at least I am hoping it is not). I do believe we will have a very jealous Catherine, though AND soon a very jealous Vincent (great news and so much fun!)! From there....VINCAT! BTW....anyone hoping that this mid-season epi is as good as "Bridesmaid Up"? That was the PERFECT episode! I don't think that an episode that includes the "Tori" character can invoke the kinds of feelings that Bridesmaid Up did… Unless of course, she isn't in it I'm just too annoyed by her. *sigh* It's just a damn waste of screen time and valuable storytelling.
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