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Post by ragulr25 on Oct 2, 2013 0:50:31 GMT -5
"One more thing.. .yes, all spoilers are about Vincent. Let's be honest, in this story, what's out of the box? a beautiful cop or a guy who was experimented and can transform to a beast?? So I find normal that the main story rotates around Vincent even though I also want to see Catherine with her own arc (which will collide with Vincent's sooner or later)!!" Even so, then their job as the writers is to make Cat`s story to be as interesting,if not more, as Vincent`s is. The show is titled Beauty (first) & the Beast(later). Therefore, if they only interested in the Beast part and make the fans more/only interested in him than her.....that made them failed as the writers. Just judging by their interviews, Levin & Cooper seem to be just as much of a Vincent fangirls as many on this boards are and that affecting their judgement in writing for Cat. i hear ur point if u take "castle" the tv series is not abt castle at all. its only about beckett and her mothers murder uptill 4 seasons.many tv series have this pblm lead actor given a lead char that turned out to be a UTTER WATE OF A CHAR. but in batb ,vin is a supersoldier u cant ignore that and recently there is suddenly a hype on superheroes/supersoldiers concept in this fall. i say why not take that as an advantage and use it to our storyline. writers have assured that there is a independent story arc for cat .i say lets keep the faith as far as writers r concenred (sherri &levin)they may be somewhat lacking on vin char storyline but i m 100 % positive they r grt in writing a powerful female char in showbizz i would say cat char is as good as beckett and olivia pope in tv shows in s1. thats no coincidence
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Post by DeadLikeWindsorJulz on Oct 2, 2013 1:42:19 GMT -5
It was just my feeling from what has been said about the family dinner I did'nt mean to upset anyone No worries! SOMEONE is getting kissed, that is for sure. Just don't know who yet, right! I think some of us are just getting a little tired of the twitter teases by some people from the show because we always have to read between the lines and try to guess their meaning. It is almost like they enjoy torturing us . . .
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 2, 2013 3:22:44 GMT -5
I said earlier I would sit down and give my take on what I think is going down in season 2. This is just pure speculations and theories ..I have nothing concrete but just the information I've been getting around the net about season 2.
First off let me start with debate about Vincent always getting the story arc..Shall we? I have always believed that Vincent's arcs are key to WHO Catherine Chandler IS, they are connected in so many ways. Just because arcs center around Vincent,Catherine herself is a part of it directly or indirectly. I believe that this is intentional by the PTB for the purpose of telling the story.
WE can't just get two characters and say they are destined and YAY happily ever after. They have to have "history" for them to be destined. .How do you achieve history? By building a story to get them from point A to point B and END GAME...Both of their stories bring the families, friends, life's challenges, enemies and everyday life that gets them to that 'destined' point.
With that said I believe that in season 2 Catherine will have a major wake up call. She has to access who she is first before she can move on with Vincent. After his capture she lost herself,her sister and friends for HIM. She's fallen apart. She should have known that if M wanted Vincent it was because they wanted him for something. Now that he doesn't remember the past ten year, her or JT will be heartbreaking. This will bring out at least for the first few episodes the driven Catherine of wanting justice and to try to get the Vincent she fell in love with back.
Now for Vincent who doesn't have a clue who she is..It must be weird..Now he's supercharged,single and with a purpose. How much has Vincent changed? Will Catherine love him? Will we? From what I've seen and read..Vincent will have a bit of Vince in him..He also looks a bit snub and sure of himself(something which I do like) But if they are going to make him be a killing machine and be like a robot I don't want that Vincent. My hopes are that Vincent although we know he doesn't remember Catherine will sense somehow that this woman isn't just any woman. I understand they have to change Vincent's character from season 1..I get it but make him likeable.
AS for the first few episodes?
I believe that Catherine will try the nice way to get him to remember but when he keeps fing up she gets tired of his bull. She then gives him space to sort things out . Remember too that Vincent won't be her only problem...She will find out that Thomas Chandler isn't her real father and the search for who she is will also factor here. Kidnapping her is WRONG LOL(even if she he has trust issues) I don't go out and KIDNAP every person I don't trust and interrogate them LOL ..Hence the flowers in Liar, Liar ep 3.
One thing I know for certain is this..AND many will side with me on this...Can you honestly blame Vincent for everything he will do to Catherine, JT or himself? You can't cause folks he isn't the same man...He didn't ask for the memory wipe..it was done to him...So I think Catherine will cut him some slack. I have already forgiven him for what he hasn't even done yet! LOL He is innocent in all of this and Catherine will see it that way..TESS of course will oppose but then again that's Tess
This is the reason why she will be WILLING to protect HIM no matter what! He isn't going to be a jerk, ass, killing machine cause he wants to be..it's cause that's how they programmed him! In other words as tough as it will get..AND it will get BAD..Catherine will stick by her man! After all is said and done love conquers all. It's a rough road but like Tough Love and all episodes after..LOVE is so worth fighting for..Isn't it?
My take..my mind..my words..LOL..Yolie's musing again
Sorry
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Post by ragulr25 on Oct 2, 2013 4:08:01 GMT -5
I said earlier I would sit down and give my take on what I think is going down in season 2. This is just pure speculations and theories ..I have nothing concrete but just the information I've been getting around the net about season 2. First off let me start with debate about Vincent always getting the story arc..Shall we? I have always believed that Vincent's arcs are key to WHO Catherine Chandler IS, they are connected in so many ways. Just because arcs center around Vincent,Catherine herself is a part of it directly or indirectly. I believe that this is intentional by the PTB for the purpose of telling the story. WE can't just get two characters and say they are destined and YAY happily ever after. They have to have " history" for them to be destined. .How do you achieve history? By building a story to get them from point A to point B and END GAME...Both of their stories bring the families, friends, life's challenges, enemies and everyday life that gets them to that 'destined' point.
With that said I believe that in season 2 Catherine will have a major wake up call. She has to access who she is first before she can move on with Vincent. After his capture she lost herself,her sister and friends for HIM. She's fallen apart. She should have known that if M wanted Vincent it was because they wanted him for something. Now that he doesn't remember the past ten year, her or JT will be heartbreaking. This will bring out at least for the first few episodes the driven Catherine of wanting justice and to try to get the Vincent she fell in love with back. Now for Vincent who doesn't have a clue who she is..It must be weird..Now he's supercharged,single and with a purpose. How much has Vincent changed? Will Catherine love him? Will we? From what I've seen and read..Vincent will have a bit of Vince in him..He also looks a bit snub and sure of himself(something which I do like) But if they are going to make him be a killing machine and be like a robot I don't want that Vincent. My hopes are that Vincent although we know he doesn't remember Catherine will sense somehow that this woman isn't just any woman. I understand they have to change Vincent's character from season 1..I get it but make him likeable. AS for the first few episodes? I believe that Catherine will try the nice way to get him to remember but when he keeps fing up she gets tired of his bull. She then gives him space to sort things out . Remember too that Vincent won't be her only problem...She will find out that Thomas Chandler isn't her real father and the search for who she is will also factor here. Kidnapping her is WRONG LOL(even if she he has trust issues) I don't go out and KIDNAP every person I don't trust and interrogate them LOL ..Hence the flowers in Liar, Liar ep 3. One thing I know for certain is this..AND many will side with me on this...Can you honestly blame Vincent for everything he will do to Catherine, JT or himself? You can't cause folks he isn't the same man...He didn't ask for the memory wipe.. it was done to him...So I think Catherine will cut him some slack. I have already forgiven him for what he hasn't even done yet! LOL He is innocent in all of this and Catherine will see it that way..TESS of course will oppose but then again that's Tess This is the reason why she will be WILLING to protect HIM no matter what! He isn't going to be a jerk, ass, killing machine cause he wants to be..it's cause that's how they programmed him! In other words as tough as it will get..AND it will get BAD..Catherine will stick by her man! After all is said and done love conquers all. It's a rough road but like Tough Love and all episodes after..LOVE is so worth fighting for..Isn't it? My take..my mind..my words..LOL..Yolie's musing again Sorry well put
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 2, 2013 5:26:49 GMT -5
I said earlier I would sit down and give my take on what I think is going down in season 2. This is just pure speculations and theories ..I have nothing concrete but just the information I've been getting around the net about season 2. First off let me start with debate about Vincent always getting the story arc..Shall we? I have always believed that Vincent's arcs are key to WHO Catherine Chandler IS, they are connected in so many ways. Just because arcs center around Vincent,Catherine herself is a part of it directly or indirectly. I believe that this is intentional by the PTB for the purpose of telling the story. WE can't just get two characters and say they are destined and YAY happily ever after. They have to have " history" for them to be destined. .How do you achieve history? By building a story to get them from point A to point B and END GAME...Both of their stories bring the families, friends, life's challenges, enemies and everyday life that gets them to that 'destined' point.
With that said I believe that in season 2 Catherine will have a major wake up call. She has to access who she is first before she can move on with Vincent. After his capture she lost herself,her sister and friends for HIM. She's fallen apart. She should have known that if M wanted Vincent it was because they wanted him for something. Now that he doesn't remember the past ten year, her or JT will be heartbreaking. This will bring out at least for the first few episodes the driven Catherine of wanting justice and to try to get the Vincent she fell in love with back. Now for Vincent who doesn't have a clue who she is..It must be weird..Now he's supercharged,single and with a purpose. How much has Vincent changed? Will Catherine love him? Will we? From what I've seen and read..Vincent will have a bit of Vince in him..He also looks a bit snub and sure of himself(something which I do like) But if they are going to make him be a killing machine and be like a robot I don't want that Vincent. My hopes are that Vincent although we know he doesn't remember Catherine will sense somehow that this woman isn't just any woman. I understand they have to change Vincent's character from season 1..I get it but make him likeable. AS for the first few episodes? I believe that Catherine will try the nice way to get him to remember but when he keeps fing up she gets tired of his bull. She then gives him space to sort things out . Remember too that Vincent won't be her only problem...She will find out that Thomas Chandler isn't her real father and the search for who she is will also factor here. Kidnapping her is WRONG LOL(even if she he has trust issues) I don't go out and KIDNAP every person I don't trust and interrogate them LOL ..Hence the flowers in Liar, Liar ep 3. One thing I know for certain is this..AND many will side with me on this...Can you honestly blame Vincent for everything he will do to Catherine, JT or himself? You can't cause folks he isn't the same man...He didn't ask for the memory wipe.. it was done to him...So I think Catherine will cut him some slack. I have already forgiven him for what he hasn't even done yet! LOL He is innocent in all of this and Catherine will see it that way..TESS of course will oppose but then again that's Tess This is the reason why she will be WILLING to protect HIM no matter what! He isn't going to be a jerk, ass, killing machine cause he wants to be..it's cause that's how they programmed him! In other words as tough as it will get..AND it will get BAD..Catherine will stick by her man! After all is said and done love conquers all. It's a rough road but like Tough Love and all episodes after..LOVE is so worth fighting for..Isn't it? My take..my mind..my words..LOL..Yolie's musing again Sorry yeap couldnt agree more. based on teasers and spoilers i also think this is how it will unfold and again agree, regarding vincent. it is not his fault and we cannot really blame him because in the first few episodes he will not be in touch with his humanity. as jay also clearly hinted, this will change a few episodes in and i do think we will get the old vincent back, maybe not the same old vincent but something close to that. i am more positive about the show now, dont know why but i am , just cant wait for it to start, and glad i have such a good group of friends on the forum to talk to about it
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 2, 2013 5:49:45 GMT -5
^ Totally!!! As much as my daughter likes the show...She thinks I'm crazy! LOL So I'm glad I can talk freely to others that feel the same way about the show I do!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 2, 2013 10:04:55 GMT -5
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 2, 2013 11:18:36 GMT -5
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 2, 2013 16:06:18 GMT -5
thanks a lot, this is a very good interview, there WILL BE anguish ... need to equip myself with lots of tissues
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Post by feezya on Oct 2, 2013 16:17:30 GMT -5
aaawwwww... i think i'm actually looking forward to see Gabe next week, ESP when he's with JT. He looks so much better without his 5 o'clock shadow.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 2, 2013 16:18:59 GMT -5
OK everyone, brad kern was on twitter answering questions quoting the most important ones
@batbwriters will we see a dynamic with V Cat and bio-dad and see that play out with a possible outcome? #TeamBeastie #bradkern BATB Writers @batbwriters 46m @jakim82m @batbcaitlin That's what our first 8 ep arc is all about. #TeamBeastie\\
@batbwriters Will Vincent truly fall in love with Cat again or will he just feel obligated because of his past? BATB Writers @batbwriters 48m @larissabarias Their love is destined. #TeamBeastie\\
hat kinds of creatures can beasties xpect 2c in S2? #TeamBeastie @batbwriters @batbcaitlin EBATB Writers @batbwriters 1h @karibear09 @batbcaitlin safe 2 say that Vincent will b discovering Muirfield experiments some like him and some different but all cool
Cat and Tess will grow closer as friends as Cat and Vincent's relationship becomes challenged
@batbwriters Q for Brad .. What attracted you to joining the #BatBFANmily for S2?? #TeamBeastie @andieharrison29 I was attracted to the potential of the show and the romance at the heart of it[[
We're hearing alot about how Vincent changes in S2, what about Vincent's character will be the same @batbwriters #BradKern #TeamBeastie @dickenshall His love for Cat and his search for who he truly is. #TeamBeastie
Brad,what are U thinking about this #Beastie fandom?And,how big of an influence do the #Beasties have on the show? #TeamBeastie @schjanet They have a huge influence on the show and it's my (Brad's) job to honor that #Tea \ for Brad .. Is Gabe now fully on Team VinCat or should we b expecting a future doublecross?? #TeamBeastie #BatB @sendhil_Rama @andieharrison29 @sendhil_Rama We start the season with Gabe fully on Team VinCat, but you never know with Gabe. #TeamBeastie @batbwriters @batbcaitlin Brad if you had to describe BATB Season 2 so far, in three words what would they be? #TeamBeastie @karenwest8 @batbcaitlin In three words? This is a hard question: super-charged and romantic #TeamBeastie (the and counts as a world) Hide conversat
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Post by feezya on Oct 2, 2013 16:20:04 GMT -5
Am so loving the last part... "Love is never more powerful than it is fought for and won, and the journey for Vincent and Catherine this next season will be the search to recover the love they lost.... Love always finds a way. " But i don't know if i can do "tragic love"
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 2, 2013 16:22:01 GMT -5
so what sounds really positive to me is that 1) what attracted him to the show is the romance so this means he will want to keep it 2) he liustens to fans and is interested in what beasties want 3) season 2 is full on action wise but also very romantic 4) what does not change with vincent in season 2 and i nhis character is his love for cat and his search for who he is 5) they are destined
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Oct 2, 2013 19:41:09 GMT -5
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Post by yozora on Oct 2, 2013 22:02:17 GMT -5
#Speculation : Another Beast? i kind of want to see that another beast .i guess u r talking abt tori ?? female? i'm kind of hoping for another male beast.. bummer..
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