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Post by beastiegirl.happy.puppy on Jul 21, 2013 13:50:58 GMT -5
When I heard him say that, I thought of ----Drumroll, Please---Gabe !!! It makes sense to me: 1. I never liked or trusted him & feel most of the stories he told Catherine were lies! [IMO, the Muirfield scenario in "Playing with Fire" was a set-up by Gabe.] 2. "Bio-Dad" Reynolds was after Gabe & got Vincent as a Bonus. 3. After "16 bullets in the chest" why else would they keep him alive "in some capacity" & bring him back?
IMO, "Bio-Dad Reynolds" isn't the Bad Guy, based on a lot of clues & my gut feeling about him!
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Post by MissMonroe on Jul 21, 2013 18:32:26 GMT -5
When I heard him say that, I thought of ----Drumroll, Please---Gabe !!! It makes sense to me: 1. I never liked or trusted him & feel most of the stories he told Catherine were lies! [IMO, the Muirfield scenario in "Playing with Fire" was a set-up by Gabe.] 2. "Bio-Dad" Reynolds was after Gabe & got Vincent as a Bonus. 3. After "16 bullets in the chest" why else would they keep him alive "in some capacity" & bring him back?
IMO, "Bio-Dad Reynolds" isn't the Bad Guy, based on a lot of clues & my gut feeling about him!
This is what I have felt since the finale aired! Hi everyone! I've been away from the board for a bit and have missed you all! Still very much a BEASTIE!! I am super STOKED for S2. Yes, it will be angsty, yes there will be times we will be screaming at the TV - I am sure. But, ultimately, I would like to see BATB have longevity that reaches beyond just our fanbase. The show is so special in terms of what they've created with the cast and crew (and of course VinCat). The general audience IMO will get bored if everything is about VinCat "Being Together" & "making out" all the time. From everything I have read/watched about S2, the writers cast and crew have a solid understanding that Vincent & Catherine are Destined. But for the show to progress and keep people invested, there needs to be more depth going on for the characters beyond the romance. I'm very happy with the direction the show appears to be going in. Is it October yet? Yollie, Your new word cracked me up. There's this song (Very close to your word) Called "Hay Na Na" let's just say I find the comparison so close its hysterical. Just edit "Jay" in there, and va-la. *Giggle* Yes, I amuse myself. ROTFL All in good fun, I promise. .
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 21, 2013 19:08:54 GMT -5
When I heard him say that, I thought of ----Drumroll, Please---Gabe !!! It makes sense to me: 1. I never liked or trusted him & feel most of the stories he told Catherine were lies! [IMO, the Muirfield scenario in "Playing with Fire" was a set-up by Gabe.] 2. "Bio-Dad" Reynolds was after Gabe & got Vincent as a Bonus. 3. After "16 bullets in the chest" why else would they keep him alive "in some capacity" & bring him back?
IMO, "Bio-Dad Reynolds" isn't the Bad Guy, based on a lot of clues & my gut feeling about him!
This is what I have felt since the finale aired! Hi everyone! I've been away from the board for a bit and have missed you all! Still very much a BEASTIE!! I am super STOKED for S2. Yes, it will be angsty, yes there will be times we will be screaming at the TV - I am sure. But, ultimately, I would like to see BATB have longevity that reaches beyond just our fanbase. The show is so special in terms of what they've created with the cast and crew (and of course VinCat). The general audience IMO will get bored if everything is about VinCat "Being Together" & "making out" all the time. From everything I have read/watched about S2, the writers cast and crew have a solid understanding that Vincent & Catherine are Destined. But for the show to progress and keep people invested, there needs to be more depth going on for the characters beyond the romance. I'm very happy with the direction the show appears to be going in. Is it October yet? Yollie, Your new word cracked me up. There's this song (Very close to your word) Called "Hay Na Na" let's just say I find the comparison so close its hysterical. Just edit "Jay" in there, and va-la. *Giggle* Yes, I amuse myself. ROTFL All in good fun, I promise. . MissMonroe glad your back!! LOL Thanks for the Jaynana I see you share the same sense of humor some on the board have! LOL As for the song I've heard it ..It truly made me laugh when I saw the vid As for GABE being M mastermind..It does make perfect sense since I have said from the get go that daddy(bio) is the other person working for the bigger organization and not M..Maybe they've been looking for Gabe cause they knew he's the big guy in M and wanted to get rid of him...But then again why would Gabe go through so much trouble as to do everything he did in Playing With Fire with Catherine and trying to find a cure and try to kill Vincent? That part to me doesn't make sense..After looking at the interview of the EP Sherri and Jennifer I can say that Gabe could really be the mastermind cause they talk about how Gabe will play a very important part of Vincent and Catherine's relationship..What does that mean? The only possible people that could be the masterminds are: 1.Gabe 2. Daddy Chandler 3. Bio Dad (which I hear already is comfirmed NOT to be the mastermind) 4. Mommy Chandler (Vannesa) <-- long shot though unless her body isn't the one buried in the grave at that abandoned house That song gives me an idea
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Post by kiki09 on Jul 21, 2013 19:44:58 GMT -5
I haven't watched Sherri and Jen's interview yet but from the JR/KK interview, I'm almost 90% sure JT is the head Muirfield. It seems random but they keep talking about 'JT's ultimate purpose in protecting Vincent' so to me, it's just a giant red flag.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 21, 2013 19:48:04 GMT -5
I haven't watched Sherri and Jen's interview yet but from the JR/KK interview, I'm almost 90% sure JT is the head Muirfield. It seems random but they keep talking about 'JT's ultimate purpose in protecting Vincent' so to me, it's just a giant red flag. Back in the day NOT long ago..I said that and I was almost stoned with bricks for saying it...Why now doesn't someone ever listen to me when I say things?? You can go back to the spioler thread for season 1 I always said JT was shady LOL..Everyone was like NO they can't do that ..JT is a loving character that the fans love the writers won't go there..BUT would they? Yeah I think they would
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Post by kiki09 on Jul 21, 2013 19:58:06 GMT -5
^ Lol! I do remember you saying that. I'm just piggy-backing off your idea! Lol I usually don't even read your posts sometimes cause they are too accurate, I still like to be surprised when I watch the show But in a seriousness, I agree with you especially with the way the show is going now, any and everything is possible. For me personally, I'm loving this darker tone but as long as they still continue to keep the romance aspect intact, I'm ready to go on this crazy ride.
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jul 21, 2013 20:12:06 GMT -5
I've always said that aside from Daddy Chandler not being her bio dad that there is some other secret there. ...IMHO I thought that when daddy chandler was hit by the car was to get rid of him but not by M but by these other badies. That is my guess, too. I think Daddy Chandler (step-father) will be revealed to be the head of Muirfield. That would be somewhat of a surprise. It wouldn't be her mom since Vanessa seemed to disagree with what Muirfield was doing (e.g., her rescue of Gabe, trying to save the soldiers, etc.). As to Vincent working for Muirfield...well, I think once he was captured, he lost hope. After so much time had passed, and M did more experimenting, etc., he felt he would never be free again; never see Catherine again. She was the only person that made him feel free; the only one that did not "control" him in some way. Without Catherine, Vincent could easily be "controlled" again by M. Remember, he lost everything and everyone. As far as we know, his family is dead, Alex is on the run ( oh, please keep running, girl!) and he faked his own death. Now, M has him and he doesn't believe there is a way for Catherine to "save" him. If Vincent does question his alliances, Catherine will not be happy, but I think she will always give Vincent the benefit of the doubt. She trusts him, she loves him, and she can't "hate" a part of herself. Her own Mom worked for M. She knows in her heart, there had to be a good reason for her Mom doing that. Somewhere within, she will question herself on how she feels about that and it will tie in with how she tries to understand whatever it is that Vincent is doing. This is JMHO. Yet, this does sound like a true fairytale "epic" love story. Either that, or I am one hopeless romantic! LOL!
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Post by Reyna on Jul 21, 2013 20:19:14 GMT -5
I haven't watched Sherri and Jen's interview yet but from the JR/KK interview, I'm almost 90% sure JT is the head Muirfield. It seems random but they keep talking about 'JT's ultimate purpose in protecting Vincent' so to me, it's just a giant red flag. Back in the day NOT long ago..I said that and I was almost stoned with bricks for saying it...Why now doesn't someone ever listen to me when I say things?? You can go back to the spioler thread for season 1 I always said JT was shady LOL..Everyone was like NO they can't do that ..JT is a loving character that the fans love the writers won't go there..BUT would they? Yeah I think they would Not entirely certain about that, yet, it would not surprise me if JT’s ultimate purpose for protecting Vincent all this time was due to him knowing who the head of Muirfield was all along. Definitely would even go so far as to say it could be someone from Vincent’s past even someone that was close to him. I can totally see the writers going down that route.
Quite honestly, given all that they been through, I seriously cannot see JT being the head of Muirfield. That would be the ultimate betrayal to VinCat. Not to mention, that would mean JT would have been responsible for the death of Cat’s mom, whether it was intentional or unintentional.
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jul 21, 2013 20:23:38 GMT -5
I haven't watched Sherri and Jen's interview yet but from the JR/KK interview, I'm almost 90% sure JT is the head Muirfield. It seems random but they keep talking about 'JT's ultimate purpose in protecting Vincent' so to me, it's just a giant red flag. Back in the day NOT long ago..I said that and I was almost stoned with bricks for saying it...Why now doesn't someone ever listen to me when I say things?? You can go back to the spioler thread for season 1 I always said JT was shady LOL..Everyone was like NO they can't do that ..JT is a loving character that the fans love the writers won't go there..BUT would they? Yeah I think they would Whoa! That WOULD be surprising - LOL!!! It would also be brilliant! JT being head of M would explain not only why he keeps Vincent safe, but also why he is willing to "hide" from the world as well. He is a biochemist (like Vanessa). He wrote the published paper on cross-species DNA; he experimented on Vincent trying to find a "cure." He would have been the one that ordered Vanessa's assassination. Wouldn't that turn Vincent's world upside down! It would also make it easier to keep Vincent "controlled" and working for M.
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Post by ragulr25 on Jul 21, 2013 20:24:20 GMT -5
I haven't watched Sherri and Jen's interview yet but from the JR/KK interview, I'm almost 90% sure JT is the head Muirfield. It seems random but they keep talking about 'JT's ultimate purpose in protecting Vincent' so to me, it's just a giant red flag. lol,i also think jt is gonna be somehow involved with muirfield,but i m not sure about head of the agency. jt char raised a BIG TIME CAUTION when he was on the tunnel where he was correctly being called off into work
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Post by kiki09 on Jul 21, 2013 20:28:37 GMT -5
I haven't watched Sherri and Jen's interview yet but from the JR/KK interview, I'm almost 90% sure JT is the head Muirfield. It seems random but they keep talking about 'JT's ultimate purpose in protecting Vincent' so to me, it's just a giant red flag. lol,i also think jt is gonna be somehow involved with muirfield,but i m not sure about head of the agency. jt char raised a BIG TIME CAUTION when he was on the tunnel where he was correctly being called off into work YES! The tunnel thing did throw me initially but I just brushed it off as just one of those things that happen but JT always seems to be conveniently gone when stuff goes down with Vincent.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 21, 2013 20:31:13 GMT -5
lol,i also think jt is gonna be somehow involved with muirfield,but i m not sure about head of the agency. jt char raised a BIG TIME CAUTION when he was on the tunnel where he was correctly being called off into work YES! The tunnel thing did throw me initially but I just brushed it off as just one of those things that happen but JT always seems to be conveniently gone when stuff goes down with Vincent. LOL! I've always said that too! That he's always away when M is close to getting V..In the tunnels in Heart Of Darkness after the laundry comment he jetted s fast! Like he had something up his butt! LOL Then in Trust No One the same thing with Sarah..so many times LOL BUT who's counting??
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Post by Reyna on Jul 21, 2013 20:48:13 GMT -5
I haven't watched Sherri and Jen's interview yet but from the JR/KK interview, I'm almost 90% sure JT is the head Muirfield. It seems random but they keep talking about 'JT's ultimate purpose in protecting Vincent' so to me, it's just a giant red flag. lol,i also think jt is gonna be somehow involved with muirfield,but i m not sure about head of the agency. jt char raised a BIG TIME CAUTION when he was on the tunnel where he was correctly being called off into work Agreed, especially based on JT and Evan’s discussions about Muirfield. JT seemed to be quite knowledgeable of Muirfield, and seemed to know firsthand of what the organization was fully capable of doing.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jul 21, 2013 20:56:01 GMT -5
Wait.............According to Jay in this interview (at the end) ........he does make reference of someone you wouldn't have "thought of" to be the "Mastermind" of Muirfield...and it's not Cat's Dad, but he says that he "can't wait to see the actor who will bring him to life"! So, I don't think J.T. is even remotely Muirfield? IMO www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS1r5z3KcW4
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 21, 2013 21:09:25 GMT -5
Wait.............According to Jay in this interview (at the end) ........he does make reference of someone you wouldn't have "thought of" to be the "Mastermind" of Muirfield...and it's not Cat's Dad, but he says that he "can't wait to see the actor who will bring him to life"! So, I don't think J.T. is even remotely Muirfield? IMO www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS1r5z3KcW4What if the mastermind of M was a woman??
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