xraygirl
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Happily sailing the good ship 'Vincat'
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Post by xraygirl on May 19, 2013 22:32:30 GMT -5
About the * bigger problem* Tess told JT they might have.... If you recall in Date Night , The Tess and Joe convo was interrupted by Mr. Rynolds (REAL DADDY and M) So when Tess saw Catherine's dad tablet and saw the picture of the guy..She knew who he was cause she recognized him from when she left Joe's office and he walked in.Yolie OMG!! You are so right!!!! I completely forgot about that!! Duh, how could I?? See? The writers ARE more on the ball than they're given credit for!
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on May 19, 2013 22:34:34 GMT -5
About the * bigger problem* Tess told JT they might have.... If you recall in Date Night , The Tess and Joe convo was interrupted by Mr. Rynolds (REAL DADDY and M) So when Tess saw Catherine's dad tablet and saw the picture of the guy..She knew who he was cause she recognized him from when she left Joe's office and he walked in.Yolie Excellent pick up Yolie. Are you a Detective in another life? We saw on the Tablet/Notebook a pic of "Agent Reynolds" and that he was "back in the Country", but we don't know how much info was there about him. I wonder how Cat will find out about her incompatible Blood........will Heather tell her, the nurse, her NotFather? That is going to drive Catherine bat<edited> crazy. She will go digging into the Mom's old stuff......Tess will tell her that she saw "Reynolds" in Joe's Office. The connections will come together pretty quickly. Now that "real Daddy" saw his daughter, I wonder if he has been keeping tabs on her all these years? Obviously, he knows now that Cat is aware of Vincent. Because of this, I would think that "Real Daddy" holds back whatever they have planned for Vincent? If not, and they experiment on Vincent, Catherine will never forgive "Real Daddy" for hurting Vincent.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 19, 2013 23:13:50 GMT -5
About the * bigger problem* Tess told JT they might have.... If you recall in Date Night , The Tess and Joe convo was interrupted by Mr. Rynolds (REAL DADDY and M) So when Tess saw Catherine's dad tablet and saw the picture of the guy..She knew who he was cause she recognized him from when she left Joe's office and he walked in.Yolie Excellent pick up Yolie. Are you a Detective in another life? Nope I just have a photographic memory and I pick up on things fast! LOL Oh and spydancer, it's 'photo' graphic NOT ' porno' graphic! Yolie
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Post by Liv on May 19, 2013 23:15:42 GMT -5
I guess the real daddy was keeping tabs on Cat and fake daddy was keeping tabs on him (if you come to think about it, BatB is basically a show of stalkers!). I wonder if it will come to the point that Vincent has to kill real daddy in order to escape...
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 19, 2013 23:23:14 GMT -5
I guess the real daddy was keeping tabs on Cat and fake daddy was keeping tabs on him (if you come to think about it, BatB is basically a show of stalkers!). I wonder if it will come to the point that Vincent has to kill real daddy in order to escape... STALKERS?? at that one right now! But yeah you are sorta right! Vincent sorta stalked her for 9 years...and who knows if real daddy has been too...But I don't know or we don't YET know how big of a role or how long his character is going to stay around for..I don't think they are going to bring him in to get rid of him in 2-3 episodes..I think this is a whole season thing...Not every episode but like Gabe's character was...in at least 10. So this could go all the way down the end of season 2! Yolie
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Post by curly on May 20, 2013 10:23:14 GMT -5
Yolie - I hope she listens too. Vincent could definitely use a new pair of jeans, coat and a collection of wife beaters. curly - I beg to differ. Vincent should have told Cat the truth with or without a reason for doing so. I predict that this secret will be the reason for a separation in season 2. More than Muirfield or the changing DNA. And it sucks big time. By the way, where will Cat/JT/Tess start looking for Vincent? Liv- I couldn't agree more that Vincent should have told Cat the truth (if he knows) but I am just sympathetic to the fact that if he has known who the real daddy is which I would think would have for a short time given the evidence, knowing what that guy is capable of, I can understand why at this point until he obviously will have to he didn't come right out and say it. There is a lot of life and death stuff going on and for all he knew if he remembers the guy was out of the country and did not pose an immediate threat. Who knows what the back story is maybe the guy was suppose to be dead? He told Evan she could never know about her "parents" so it's gotta be a whopper. And I still can't get over the "parents" part. And I have said if he knows it all and has kept it form her the excuse of protecting her may not be good enough this time even though I think that it is understandable.
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Post by curly on May 20, 2013 11:45:09 GMT -5
My questions -
1) Does the tablet contain any information that this Michael guy is Cats father explicitly so now JT and Tess know or just that the big bad head of Muirfiled is back and infiltrated the precinct too. How much do they actually know?
2) Will the father remember what he set out to do in the beginning of this finale or forget because of the accident and Heather will be the only one that knows the fake Daddy dilemna to begin with and try to protect Cat from it etc... Is Heather a match? The mother did say about "protecting her daughters"in Trapped.
2)How much does Vincent actually know and when? What is it about her "parents"? A plural word I can't get past. It is one thing to know 1 or more of her parents are not actually her parents but it is another to know who really is. They used the wording "may or may not" which may be Vincent saving grace and for the Vincat relationship. If he only knows that they are not her real parents or something is that a deal breaker? But then again why say she can "never know". Perhaps this will be his first meeting or encounter with her dad and that's how he finds out his actual identity. IDK
3) I keep going back to that rogue agent scenario Cat mentioned in PWF and Vincents reaction and his reaction to her watching that video. It was like he was waiting for her to remember something. Weird scene that seemed a to imply that the agent knew who Cat was and her significance and I think Vincent did too later proved by his convo with Evan. Could Vincnet be a programmed agent and not even had known? This other agent guy risked his life just to tell her about Muirfield location because he worked under her mom??? IDK Its more than that. The guy was not remotely interested in what was going on with the beast that had been the focus of Muifield to begin with. I think Cat is more significant to Muirfield than just who her parents are in the end anyway, maybe not now. Otherwise that guys loyalty to her mom is so far fetched especially in light of what Gabe was willing to do.
4) Is it possible that if Vincent knows all the details that he wants her to find out on her own or remember suppressed stuff on her own as in it would be bad to tell her. We know she was in therapy for years etc...we have no idea how bad she was or how she reacted or behaved in the years right after the moms death etc...He is a Dr. afterall....perhaps wishful thinking I know.LOL
5) Where is Claire?
I can go on and on with these questions. It's gonna be a long summer. LOL
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 20, 2013 12:22:39 GMT -5
My questions - 1) Does the tablet contain any information that this Michael guy is Cats father explicitly so now JT and Tess know or just that the big bad head of Muirfiled is back and infiltrated the precinct too. How much do they actually know? 2) Will the father remember what he set out to do in the beginning of this finale or forget because of the accident and Heather will be the only one that knows the fake Daddy dilemna to begin with and try to protect Cat from it etc... Is Heather a match? The mother did say about "protecting her daughters"in Trapped. 2)How much does Vincent actually know and when? What is it about her "parents"? A plural word I can't get past. It is one thing to know 1 or more of her parents are not actually her parents but it is another to know who really is. They used the wording "may or may not" which may be Vincent saving grace and for the Vincat relationship. If he only knows that they are not her real parents or something is that a deal breaker? But then again why say she can "never know". Perhaps this will be his first meeting or encounter with her dad and that's how he finds out his actual identity. IDK 3) I keep going back to that rogue agent scenario Cat mentioned in PWF and Vincents reaction and his reaction to her watching that video. It was like he was waiting for her to remember something. Weird scene that seemed a to imply that the agent knew who Cat was and her significance and I think Vincent did too later proved by his convo with Evan. Could Vincnet be a programmed agent and not even had known? This other agent guy risked his life just to tell her about Muirfield location because he worked under her mom??? IDK Its more than that. The guy was not remotely interested in what was going on with the beast that had been the focus of Muifield to begin with. I think Cat is more significant to Muirfield than just who her parents are in the end anyway, maybe not now. Otherwise that guys loyalty to her mom is so far fetched especially in light of what Gabe was willing to do. 4) Is it possible that if Vincent knows all the details that he wants her to find out on her own or remember suppressed stuff on her own as in it would be bad to tell her. We know she was in therapy for years etc...we have no idea how bad she was or how she reacted or behaved in the years right after the moms death etc...He is a Dr. afterall....perhaps wishful thinking I know.LOL 5) Where is Claire? I can go on and on with these questions. It's gonna be a long summer. LOL I have ALL those same questions...BUT right now my mind is still grasping that finale! LOL I have 4 months to think of possible scenarios or answers to those questions! SHOOT ME! LOL I quick death is better then this! Yolie
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on May 21, 2013 18:41:53 GMT -5
I think for next season, when it comes to getting Vincent back...I'd like to see Catherine go all 'Linda Hamilton' on Muirfields ass. And I don't mean Linda Hamilton from the original. I want Linda Hamilton from 'Terminator 2'!! LOL. Now THAT could be fun to watch!!!!!
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on May 21, 2013 18:55:42 GMT -5
I agree with Liv, either way he kept things from her..as much as it was to protect her he was wrong in keeping it from her...BUT I truly think that he'd known all along.....shortly after afgan or before Vanessa died. I could be wrong but JT and Vincent way before always talked about hurting her and not telling her things...this goes back before Trapped..So he did know something. But then again it doesn't make sense..cause if he started remembering he knew Vanessa in Trapped then how can the writers change that? I dunno LOL...I am so confused right now, I don't know anything at this point. Useless post LOL I think he was watching over Vanessa and when he was too late to save her, he saved Catherine instead. That would mean Vincent has probably known about Catherine's biological father all along. I realize he kept this info from her, but was it really his place to tell her? Exactly how does someone start that conversation? "Oh, by the way, the man you think is your father really isn't. Your biological father is an evil man who is the head of Muirfield." Not so good. This info had to come from her Mom or her Dad (Thomas). (I know this, because I am adopted by my father. It would not have gone over too well if, when the truth was told, it had come from someone other than my parents. Then again, that is how I felt - only my opinion based on my real-life experience.) I still think that Catherine's bio Dad and her Mom started M and that when bio Dad decided to use their new-found DNA knowledge in negative ways rather than for good, Mom wanted out. Bio Dad blackmailed her, threatening to experiment on their daughter (Catherine). Mom stayed working for M to keep him away from Cat. Thomas was probably part of M at one time (or knew about them through his law practice) and wanted to expose them. Vanessa and Thomas fell in love over their mutual concern over M. They married and Thomas agreed to adopt Cat to keep her from further exposure to M. Thoughts?
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 21, 2013 21:27:37 GMT -5
May 21, 2013 10:15 PM ET by Adam Bryant and Natalie Abrams What's going to happen to Vincent next season on Beauty and the Beast? — LaraADAM: Now that Vincent has been captured, clearly he's going to need someone to rescue him. But however that turns out, Jay Ryan has some other wishes for Season 2: "I'd like him to find his mother and some of his platoon, if they are still alive, and give him a sense of community he could bring to his relationship with Catherine," he says. Speaking of family, Ryan says that the introduction of Catherine's biological father in the finale will create some major obstacles for he and Catherine. How major? "[He] could break them up," Ryan warns.TV Guide.comYolie
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Post by curly on May 21, 2013 22:30:22 GMT -5
Thanks Yolie- and so begins the long summer of vague tidbits.. LOL Does he mean the dad could keep them apart? That I can see but a "break up" would be more likely due to something that they did to or kept form each other, no? Oh boy!! Lets form a community around our breakup?
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 21, 2013 22:34:41 GMT -5
Thanks Yolie- and so begins the long summer of vague tidbits.. LOL Does he mean the dad could keep them apart? That I can see but a "break up" would be more likely due to something that they did to or kept form each other, no? Oh boy!! Lets form a community around our breakup? LOL Curly community INDEED!! Break up I think is cause Catherine is so pissed at him for knowing and not telling! I have that gut feeling LOL I just hope the break up isn't long cause those that watch the show cause of the relationship will be TURNED OFF by it! Yolie
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on May 21, 2013 22:42:57 GMT -5
A long break-up would be suicide for the show. Taking a few episodes to rescue Vincent would be O.K., but not a relationship break-up; after all, it is the heartbeat of the show.
I really hope the misunderstanding (break-up) between them is not due to Vincent not telling Catherine about her biological father. That would be a tough one. I must admit, though, some viewers would be on Vincent's side and others on Catherine's which would create Beastie Buzz for sure!
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Post by curly on May 21, 2013 23:50:40 GMT -5
Yeah really not into the I'll protect you but I can't be with you nonsense or them running around each other having different story lines because one can't trust the other now. blah, blah,blah but I'm with you on the withholding information part. Not good especially not again. His need to protect her will ccertainly not be "fair" at all this time. Though I see it as understandable if it means life or death or keeping a promise ...but he was just going to run off with her and have the white picket fence while keeping such lies is unfathomable IMO so I hope it plays out a lot better that I can spec right now. LOL cause I will be pissed too. Hopefully it is just a language thing with Jay. LOL Because he really doesn't know what it going on next season yet either. I would love to see a whole underground family thing going on though that know Vincent is alive and can interact with him. Perhaps when Gabe dies he can leave them everything to carry out his and their mission to take out Muirfield? That would be helpful. New clothes for the beast, more than 1 tranq gun, new equipment life-time supply of burner phone and a castle...cha-ching.lol
1Q - if Gabe comes back isn't he dying anyway? Are they really going to re-write that like oooohh JT made u a new pill and you can live. They stressed so much how different Gabe and Vincent are. Hope he is dead dead. I guess I wouldn''t mind watching him die a slow death that would be sad and drive it home for JT and Cat about poss future aspects of Vincents evolving beast.
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