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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on May 4, 2013 0:26:31 GMT -5
Not only that, but I am guessing Vincent knew where Vanessa's grave was and who put her there.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 4, 2013 1:28:11 GMT -5
Not only that, but I am guessing Vincent knew where Vanessa's grave was and who put her there. He didn't know she was there..The expression he had when *he* sensed it tells me otherwise..
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on May 4, 2013 7:49:09 GMT -5
Not only that, but I am guessing Vincent knew where Vanessa's grave was and who put her there. He didn't know she was there..The expression he had when *he* sensed it tells me otherwise.. Maybe you are right, Yolie. He did have that expression on his face. But I really think he knew about that place. I think bad daddy moved Vanessa to the Muirfield Safehouse because he actually loved her. Vanessa did not agree with his actions, etc., with Muirfield and that ended it.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 7, 2013 1:28:16 GMT -5
Okay I'm going to put this on this thread cause I have a few things I want to say pertaining to a few episodes...Case in point Playing With Fire and Anniversary I *know* as a fact that Gabe Lowen ADA is NOT M. I believe he needs Vincent for what I've said all along..His DNA cause his type of BEAST is more feirce and uncontrolable. With that said..I will tell you that he isn't working alone...There are BADDY people he's working with who want Vincent as much as he does...Only thing he wants to get to him first. ALSO DADDY CHANDLER revelation too Now how did I come to these conclusions?? Okay then here's the evidence: Playing With Fire:A.Gabe figures out that Catherine knows of M cause of Evan. Gabe gets all of Evan's journals. Now how revealing are those journals? If M was impressed with the research Evan had done what makes you think that Gabe doesn't know all of this too. Once he figures out that Catherine and Evan were in on the cross species DNA creature he latches on to Catherine even more and tries to win her over. Now a lot of the stuff that comes out of the mouth of Gabe with Catherine is SHADY but he has NO need to be SHADY with Tyler. Which brings me to point B B When Gabe shows Catherine Evan's journals and Catherine finds the Orchard Ind address..IF Gabe was M why didn't he know what Orchard Ind was?? Also when Catherine enters the place and tells Gabe about the servers and that all of M info was there..Gabe looked shocked. C Tyler and Gabe again as Catherine starts to put the code for the password and they get in...Gabe was in shock as was Tyler that they were actually getting the files..If Gabe was with M he wouldn't allow that facilty or Catherine to get to it...The Mansion he spoke of is the BASE for whoever is behind this other organization..Is Gabe the leader? Or is there a higher power? That I don't know. He also goes and tells Tyler"WE GOT THEM" meaning that Gabe truly had no clue where M was and that GABE truly HAS MAJOR MOJO WITH M. If this is a lie he wouldn't be saying these things and keeping a front. Now Anniversary:First again Gabe and the fact he knew Vanessa Chandler.. I learned in this episode the motive is to get close to Catherine...To find out if the WOMAN that was M and was a doctor and was very aware of what M was working on was still alive. He had to get close to Catherine to be able to open the can of worms doubt in her that her mother might still be alive so that she can persue it legally. Gabe couldn't do that so HE used Catherine to see if Vanessa was alive so she could help him (THEM) The end of Anniversary is very telling other then we know he's a BEAST..Whoever he called was waiting for answers as well.. "Bad news is Vanessa is dead..Good news is we found him." Telling indeed cause now he KNOWS that Catherine NOT only is connected to M through her mom but also Vincent. The person he so trying to get..How will he use Catherine in the next episode?? Well that I don't know. Gabe is first and foremost out to save his BEASTLY SKIN cause it seems he's far more dangerous then Vincent in that he loses ALL control and reason in BEAST form. OH and BIG REVEAL in this EPISODE too... DADDY CHANDLER isn't the HEAD of M! Cause if that were the case Gabe would have recognized him..Remember GABE is after the HEAD HONCHO so he knows WHAT he looks like...ALSO DADDY DEAREST WOULD HAVE KNOWN GABE TOO.... How is that? Anyone else catch that?? But at least this is where I am with Gabe. Yolie
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on May 7, 2013 6:39:58 GMT -5
Great insight, Yolie! I want to read it again so I can respond thoroughly.
Got a question for you, though. It was my impression all along that bad daddy, "Michael," Cat's biological father was the head of M?!? I thought Thomas, who she thinks is her Dad, was a lawyer who married Vanessa and adopted her two daughters but may or may not have been involved with M at one time.
You think Thomas is the head of M? Do you think Michael is the head of the second organization? Because my spec on this was the other way around! LOL! I thought Thomas was the head, or involved with, the second organization and that Michael was the head of M.
Thoughts?
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 7, 2013 7:08:07 GMT -5
Great insight, Yolie! I want to read it again so I can respond thoroughly.
Got a question for you, though. It was my impression all along that bad daddy, "Michael," Cat's biological father was the head of M?!? I thought Thomas, who she thinks is her Dad, was a lawyer who married Vanessa and adopted her two daughters but may or may not have been involved with M at one time.
You think Thomas is the head of M? Do you think Michael is the head of the second organization? Because my spec on this was the other way around! LOL! I thought Thomas was the head, or involved with, the second organization and that Michael was the head of M.
Thoughts? I say Michael Catherine's real father is HEAD of M! Thomas I think could be working for the other organization to take M down for what they did to Vanessa...This guy Michael was totally in love with her since he did move her remains elsewhere where he can visit himself or maybe he did live there once.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 7, 2013 8:18:22 GMT -5
WELL FOLKS SCOOP for NEXT SEASON ALREADY!!!HERE WE GO..I KNEW IT!!Andy: Beauty and the Beast scoop if you've got it! Now that the show's been officially renewed for a second season, executive producer Jennifer Levin says fans can expect to see more of Vincent and Catherine's relationship struggles next year. "We spent this season really bonding Cat and Vincent, and they are so strong together," she explains. "I think next year we want to put some obstacles in their way and really challenge their relationship, so that's what we've been talking about, how to do that."E!Online
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Post by salinsan on May 7, 2013 8:24:58 GMT -5
^ Well, well! That´s okay to me
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 7, 2013 8:36:24 GMT -5
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on May 7, 2013 9:05:55 GMT -5
Okay I don't mind if they *challenge* their relationship while keeping them together..I can handle Vincent gradually turning more beast like..I can handle her finding out that he kept things from her...those are challenges...But I don't want an ALEX SULTER fiasco again! To be honest if something like that came up..That wouldn't be EPIC love for me...That would really make me wonder what the idea of *EPIC* is to the writers. ANyone coming between them as a love interest WOULDN'T work for me because they did go out of their way to bring them close and make the relationship strong and for what to bring other love interests in?? I do hope they don't go that route. That would be a KILLER for me. Not a KILLER BUT A SHOW KILLER FOR ME Well, you knew that they would do that after moving quickly to get them together. But, I wholeheartedly agree, that I DO NOT want an "Alex-type" storyline! I am afraid that is EXACTLY what they will do to VinCat. I can't get over the morning after scene with Cat talking to Vincent about "the last time this happen"......I kept thinking, "Will you just SHUSH about an Ex-lover Catherine!!" I think we can count on THAT happening, maybe not for 4 episodes, but it will happen at some point! It just sounded like Catherine was on the short end of the stick with that love affair, so look for unresolved issues of Cat's past to resurface. Personally, I think Cat liked it a little bit that Vincent showed some jealousy......look at the smile she gave Vincent when he gave her the broken phone and said he lost control when he heard Gabe's voice! I hope we get some more tidbits of spoilers soon!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 7, 2013 9:26:47 GMT -5
Okay I don't mind if they *challenge* their relationship while keeping them together..I can handle Vincent gradually turning more beast like..I can handle her finding out that he kept things from her...those are challenges...But I don't want an ALEX SULTER fiasco again! To be honest if something like that came up..That wouldn't be EPIC love for me...That would really make me wonder what the idea of *EPIC* is to the writers. ANyone coming between them as a love interest WOULDN'T work for me because they did go out of their way to bring them close and make the relationship strong and for what to bring other love interests in?? I do hope they don't go that route. That would be a KILLER for me. Not a KILLER BUT A SHOW KILLER FOR ME Well, you knew that they would do that after moving quickly to get them together. But, I wholeheartedly agree, that I DO NOT want an "Alex-type" storyline! I am afraid that is EXACTLY what they will do to VinCat. I can't get over the morning after scene with Cat talking to Vincent about "the last time this happen"......I kept thinking, "Will you just SHUSH about an Ex-lover Catherine!!" I think we can count on THAT happening, maybe not for 4 episodes, but it will happen at some point! It just sounded like Catherine was on the short end of the stick with that love affair, so look for unresolved issues of Cat's past to resurface. Personally, I think Cat liked it a little bit that Vincent showed some jealousy......look at the smile she gave Vincent when he gave her the broken phone and said he lost control when he heard Gabe's voice! I hope we get some more tidbits of spoilers soon! Yeah I knew they were going that direction..ALL good things must come to an end...BUT I hope that if they play that game again they re-think how they are going about in doing it...The Alex thing still has a bitter taste in my mouth that I think I can't ever shake...It annoys the crap out of me...I love a jealous Vincent too and he's cute when he's jealous but how far would the writers take it? My fear is that they bring this *old* boyfriend sort of have them rekindle the relationship..Vincent seeing all that the guy can give her decides to push her away..Remember what he told JT about Gabe " It's so hard to get excited about a candle when the ADA can wine and dine her like Donald Trump." A storyline like that will hurt like hell. Oh man the more I think the more my head hurts...WE BETTER ENJOY DATE NIGHT cause we are SCREWED FOLKS and not in the good way!! Yolie
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on May 7, 2013 10:34:59 GMT -5
...The Alex thing still has a bitter taste in my mouth that I think I can't ever shake...It annoys the crap out of me...I love a jealous Vincent too and he's cute when he's jealous but how far would the writers take it? My fear is that they bring this *old* boyfriend sort of have them rekindle the relationship..Vincent seeing all that the guy can give her decides to push her away..Remember what he told JT about Gabe " It's so hard to get excited about a candle when the ADA can wine and dine her like Donald Trump." A storyline like that will hurt like hell. Oh man the more I think the more my head hurts...WE BETTER ENJOY DATE NIGHT cause we are SCREWED FOLKS and not in the good way!! Yolie Exactly! If Catherine had any feelings for this Ex. then you know he had to be a real catch, unfortunately,....he was probably a guy whose career was more important than her. Hence, Cat remembering him after making love to Vincent. Ouch!
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on May 7, 2013 11:42:26 GMT -5
WELL FOLKS SCOOP for NEXT SEASON ALREADY!!!HERE WE GO..I KNEW IT!!Andy: Beauty and the Beast scoop if you've got it! Now that the show's been officially renewed for a second season, executive producer Jennifer Levin says fans can expect to see more of Vincent and Catherine's relationship struggles next year. "We spent this season really bonding Cat and Vincent, and they are so strong together," she explains. "I think next year we want to put some obstacles in their way and really challenge their relationship, so that's what we've been talking about, how to do that."E!Online Here is my two cents worth on this particular spoiler, by obstacles, they can't possibly be talking about another love interest for either of them. Yes, I think, potentially we could meet a man from Cat's past - who was that guy that got her into trouble before for example? But we won't meet him because she is still in love with him. How could she be? But aside of that, I think the obstacles are going to be physical barriers, psychological, emotional, you name it - anything but another LOVE interest. I know the Alex storyline has left everyone with both a bad taste in their mouth, but also with trust issues, but after building this (here we go I'm going to say it again) veritable fortress of love
It just can't be about other people coming between them. There are so many potential "obstacles and struggles" that these two could encounter, I'm going to say it is a show killer to build that epic story tale love and then tear it down as though it means nothing. Their love for each other is the show. I feel like that can't go away, not now, not ever. Personally I refuse to even consider the possibility that they are going to desecrate the beautiful love story they have built with obstacles of such banal garden variety (again). I could probably go on about this all day. The fact is that they have build the fairy tale into this show, whether everyone was paying attention to it or not, it is there, that thread is what holds the whole thing together. Without that, it's not Beauty and the Beast anymore. There are plenty of obstacles or struggles that can threaten that golden thread, or even push it to it's limits, without tearing it apart and destroying it. Other love interests that approach the Alex level of drama would do just that. I don't personally think the show could survive it.
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Post by VinCatUk on May 7, 2013 12:07:28 GMT -5
I'm all for obstacles in a relationship but please don't break them up or if they do break up don't let go with other people i see it as number of obstacles
1. Cat family drama
2. Vincent DNA and that he can't control himself and he doesn't what to be as close to Catherine in case he hurt her.
3. Vincent may finally get caught
4. Cat trust issues when she finds out Vincent has been hiding thing from her
All these reasons they can still be together working through them and hopefully it will make them stronger
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on May 7, 2013 12:21:34 GMT -5
WELL FOLKS SCOOP for NEXT SEASON ALREADY!!!HERE WE GO..I KNEW IT!!Andy: Beauty and the Beast scoop if you've got it! Now that the show's been officially renewed for a second season, executive producer Jennifer Levin says fans can expect to see more of Vincent and Catherine's relationship struggles next year. "We spent this season really bonding Cat and Vincent, and they are so strong together," she explains. "I think next year we want to put some obstacles in their way and really challenge their relationship, so that's what we've been talking about, how to do that."E!Online Here is my two cents worth on this particular spoiler, by obstacles, they can't possibly be talking about another love interest for either of them. Yes, I think, potentially we could meet a man from Cat's past - who was that guy that got her into trouble before for example? But we won't meet him because she is still in love with him. How could she be? But aside of that, I think the obstacles are going to be physical barriers, psychological, emotional, you name it - anything but another LOVE interest. I know the Alex storyline has left everyone with both a bad taste in their mouth, but also with trust issues, but after building this (here we go I'm going to say it again) veritable fortress of love
It just can't be about other people coming between them. There are so many potential "obstacles and struggles" that these two could encounter, I'm going to say it is a show killer to build that epic story tale love and then tear it down as though it means nothing. Their love for each other is the show. I feel like that can't go away, not now, not ever. Personally I refuse to even consider the possibility that they are going to desecrate the beautiful love story they have built with obstacles of such banal garden variety (again). I could probably go on about this all day. The fact is that they have build the fairy tale into this show, whether everyone was paying attention to it or not, it is there, that thread is what holds the whole thing together. Without that, it's not Beauty and the Beast anymore. There are plenty of obstacles or struggles that can threaten that golden thread, or even push it to it's limits, without tearing it apart and destroying it. Other love interests that approach the Alex level of drama would do just that. I don't personally think the show could survive it. I'm hoping they learned for the Alex fiasco! Hope no PRAY cause if they try to do that again..GOODBYE SEASON THREE CHANCES! MO
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