1x22 Never Turn Back

[VinCat❤Destined]

Apr 7, 2013 16:35:30 GMT -5 Vincent Keller said:

I'm getting so many feelings. What if this is the last ep? Never Turn Back sounds like they might run away

I'm hoping we see the conclusion to this fniale in next seasons opener I have NOT lost hope! That's the last thing those with faith lose

Yolie

[Savana_ Dying for season3!]

Vincent Kelller (argh, if I really was talking to Vincent!! ) ... I had the same feeling as you when I first reas that title... it sounded somehow like end of the story! ....
But I really have the feeling we will get a Second Season (God help me if we don't, cause I will be soooo sad and deceived and dissappointed and all together... )...

So, I'm with Yolie and think that that BIG cliffhanger that they have written will be just the beginning of the story of 2nd season!! I'm so eager for that 2nd season that I don't mind if they make VinCat apart!! I know that, at the end (hopefully in many years) they will be together, and in the meantime there will be some very hot and romantic reconciliations!!!

Crossing fingers to get good news about renewal... Do I ask too much if we get the GOOD NEWS before May 16th???

[VinCat❤Destined]

Yup even though Brian (Joe) posted that the season finale has romance I think that's at the beginning of the episode and things will go down hill from there...IF it's true what Kristin said about Vincent knowing about her family and keeping secret from her I think she will get very ticked off at him..

My thoughts on this??

Well I think Vincent was at the woods the night Catherine's mother died because maybe after they came back from Afganestan Vincent and her mom agreed that he would protect her family...Maybe he was there not to save her mother but to watch Catherine from the beginning..In other words he was sort of hired by her mom to watch over her...And maybe he also knows her dad's envolvement in Muirfeild and has kept that from Catherine too.

[kiki09]

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The moment I read your theory, I knew I had to stop 'cause with your track record, you are probably right on the money!

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Apr 8, 2013 3:25:25 GMT -5 VinCat❤Destined said:

...And maybe he also knows her dad's envolvement in Muirfeild and has kept that from Catherine too.

But if her father was really involved in Muirfield and Vincent has known about it all along, wouldn't he have been afraid to go to the wedding and risk being seen by him? While Catherine's father was announcing that dinner was served, Vincent was standing there staring directly at him

[curly]

I think the spoiler was that he "may or may not" know something and I will have to go look but I wasn't even certain if it was so much explicitly about her family. I think it is quite possible that he doesn't know the magnitude of what he knows as in he does not remember or he can't piece it together until when something new happens or someone new pops up in which he might hold of saying something right away but to deceive her from the beginning of the relationship would be hard to take. I just think it would be a total let down of their rules if you will of what has been established in their relationship. They are past hiding things. However if something did not come up because you were unaware of the significance than I think that is another story. Vincent knew a lot about the borrowing money/crime mob stuff enough to go make a deal with them and Cat never asked for clarification. There are things about their pasts that they do not know about each other but to deliberately hold something back at this point seems at odds with what we are suppose to believe of their epicness.

[kiki09]

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Yeah. Thinking back to Trapped when Vincent didn't even remember his time in Afghanistan and JT reminded him that maybe someone (Muirfield) deliberately suppressed those memories, makes me agree with you curly.

[curly]

Basically I think that someone or something may trigger some new memories for Vincent in the form of flashbacks and he may be measured in his responses like as in wait until the next day but I don't know if he has been hiding something this whole time. That would be like going back to the shady Alex Vincent. So over that stuff but some new spoilers would be nice to help clarify. Who knows but I don't want a deceptive Vincent to protect Cat don't they already have that with Evan?

[kiki09]

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True. It would be falling back to those old weird patterns that we saw when Alex came into the picture. I think what will be crucial if the story goes that way, is as you say, when Vincent divulges this 'new' info to Cat. I think that could be the only factor to test their relationship.

[crazyforv]

So here is my random two cents! Since Vincent's memories have been suppressed, what happens if Vincent once worked with Muirfield??? OK here is my thought process. In the episode where Vincent hands himself in to Muirfield, the Muirfield guy said to V, "It's been a long time!" They obviously knew each other. Some of the episodes they have kept ambiguous, my guess is they can go back and change the plot. For example, I went back to watch the pilot and they never show clearly who was holding the gun that shot Catherine's mother. What if Gabe informs Cat that it was Vincent who was there that night and changed sides because he could not pull the trigger on her mother. That way Catherine would trust Gabe and that would cause a serious rift with Vincent as the cliff hanger.
Obviously, in season two they would clear the whole matter up and everything would get back on track. This is just some out of the box thinking ... that's all.   

[kiki09]

That is a very interesting theory. I'm intrigued.

[curly]

Well if I remember correctly Cat knew about her mother working with Muirfield. Muirfield told her when she was taken by them and this was before Vincent remembered. So we actually got that information from her and that picture. She did not tell Vincent until she was forced to. She declined to tell Muifield the whereabouts of Vincent in exchange for information on her mother. So she knows there is more to her mothers story. I never did like that Vincent suggested at the cemetery that she let go of the past. Not sure how he could expect her to do that especially after what she said at her mothers gravesite about righting her wrongs unless he wants her to do that for some reason. So that was weird but I am not sure enough to suggest that he actually knows something more that he is withholding. As for Vincent once working for Muirfield, not exactly. Vincent was an experiment of Muirfield that was developing weapons for the military so in around about way he was always working for them. As for Gabe who knows yet but we know he knows about Muirfield. Is he on their side is the question. I think his link to Muirfield is his link to Cats past.

What has been spoiled is that there will be "mind blowing flashbacks". Who will have them is up for debate and spec. It could be Gabe or Cat but I think it is possible that it is Vincent and he may momentarily not divulge something to Cat right away and perhaps this aids in the big fight there is suppose to be but I really don't think it is something that he is hiding from day 1. He said from day 1 he did not know why Muirfield was tracking her but never said why he was there either. This may be the information we are going to get but if it is suppose to be a revealing information about her family than I think it will be new information that he comes across and has a hard time divulging it to her.

[curly]

Sorry one other thing. Vincent does not think that Cat should trust Gabe. Vincent must be working off his instincts. Should we trust them or the story and information that we become privy to when it is not necessarily all of it? I think in the end Gabe may not be a terrible person but he obviously has his own mission and will think that the end will justify his means which will probably have a price to be paid by Vincat. Do we know if Gabe actually comes in direct contact with Vincent (knowing he is the beast) or the beast?

[crazyforv]

I think Vincent has mentioned, on multiple occasions that his bereavement lead to some pretty poor decisions on his part.
" Like enlisting and taking a vaccination, without asking questions" He told Catherine, " Move on and stop digging up the past, no good will come from it!" He said, " Believe me, I know!" ..... This is what I think is happening, I think we can all agree that the show took a sharp left after the Alex episodes. They had wanted to make it a part procedural show and part mythology. Half way through they discovered that the procedural element was just not working and what most of us wanted to see was the love story between V&C ( Their chemistry is the best thing, I have seen on tv since Buffy and Angel)  Gulp .. I just showed my age and digressed. What we have seen and heard, since then is that the show will concentrate more on the mythology component. That is why they bought in Sendhil as Gabe. In interviews he has stated, that he was not originally interested in the role until they told him his story ark. They explained to him how the writers and the network were changing the direction of the show. This is why I think they will also eliminate Evan/Max's role. Hence making Evan so intelligent then rather rashly turning him into a lost puppy dog, which I am sure they will redeem him by the season finale. This explains why Evans role took a sharp tangent too. Evan's character worked when they concentrated on the procedural side. I think the basic premise that we know will be turned on it's head as the writers reconstruct the premise of the show. Either way ... I am hooked for life. 
These are just my humble thoughts. 
    

[VinCat❤Destined]

I still think that whatever Vincent is hiding from Catherine(if he really is) has to be something real major to cause a rift between Catherine and him....it has to be about her family too...cause let's say that it might be related the drug problem he had back with Alex and let's say he did bad things to get them...what is worse then Vincent killing people? Even though we know he doesn't do it in purpose? Whatever it is...it's big!!

Another thought: Maybe since he was a doctor...maybe he was nite only being experimented on but maybe he also helped her mother
with the experiments?

That would be an interesting twist!!