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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Apr 22, 2013 21:33:16 GMT -5
I mean Insatiable already showed us that he's totally shady. And nobody ever saw Ray Shenkman after he tried to make a deal with Gabe... so I'm guessing he's pretty much a baddie.
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Apr 22, 2013 21:51:56 GMT -5
O.K., why do I think the Producer's Preview gave so much away and was released so early that it may be a red herring?
We've been spoiled that Cat trusts Gabe and Vincent isn't so sure about him. I mentioned before that I thought Cat's Mom may have tried to help Gabe when he was a child using her early research. I think he needs Vincent's help. He knows the "vigilante" is alive, yet in the Producer's Preview he tells Cat he is hunting Muirfield for justice for himself and the "man who died in the warehouse -- the vigilante." He is lying to her...or he is trying to get her to tell him the vigilante is alive.
What do you guys think?
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Post by Janell114 on Apr 22, 2013 21:53:48 GMT -5
I agree! Between the Ray incident and then framing the murder, Gabe is all over the place. I'm not sure if it is because he is bad, or just desperate, but either way I don't trust him. I am really thinking he was a side project and Muirfield doesn't know about him, because there is no reason I can think of that they would allow him out in public, but also in a position of high power. I wonder what the new medical examiner will bring to the episode..
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Apr 22, 2013 22:01:00 GMT -5
^ What looks to be something might be another...Did anyone ever see The Sixth Sense? The one where the kid was seeing DEAD people and it turned out the dead person was the guy who the kid was talking too? Okay the same can apply to Gabe...He could be pointed out as being the baddy with Ray and the trying to frame Vincent..Why cant there be someone OUTSIDE of the obvious doing it? Making us believe Gabe is doing it? I'm starting to doubt that...More as I see PWF on Thursday!! Usually with the writers they give us tidbits of things they want us to know or THINK..In this cae they have been implying that Gabe is the one doing all of this? What if it's not...that's what 'm saying.
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Apr 22, 2013 22:11:24 GMT -5
Yep. I think you are on to something, Yolie. I think Gabe is "fishing" for info from Cat and is testing the waters so to speak. I don't think he is all bad; I think he doesn't know exactly who to trust either. He needs the vigilante's assistance to find a way to cure his 'problem' too.
As to the girl with the claw marks down her back (oops, is that this episode?). I don't think Vincent marked her; I think Gabe did. Although I am not thrilled with Gabe being a "beast" (IMO it takes away from Vincent's uniqueness), I think Gabe is a modified version or early version of the cross-species DNA beast Vincent has become. Maybe his mutations are different or not as advanced as Vincent's which is why he does not have the control Vincent does. Did someone mention that maybe he cannot change back?
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Post by bookworm on Apr 22, 2013 22:19:12 GMT -5
Guys Is PP on youtube? I Can't watch from this link.
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Post by Janell114 on Apr 22, 2013 22:19:21 GMT -5
Those are really great points. It very well could be someone other than Gabe. I definately think that Gabe is the one who left the marks on the girls back. Maybe he desperately wants help to understand how Vincent is able to control himself, so he won't be a danger to anyone. Maybe he doesn't tell Cat that he knows that Vincent is alive, because he doesn't want to freak her out with knowing too much too soon. He also somehow knows what really happened to Evan at this point.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Apr 22, 2013 22:20:04 GMT -5
Yep. I think you are on to something, Yolie. I think Gabe is "fishing" for info from Cat and is testing the waters so to speak. I don't think he is all bad; I think he doesn't know exactly who to trust either. He needs the vigilante's assistance to find a way to cure his 'problem' too. As to the girl with the claw marks down her back (oops, is that this episode?). I don't think Vincent marked her; I think Gabe did. Although I am not thrilled with Gabe being a "beast" (IMO it takes away from Vincent's uniqueness), I think Gabe is a modified version or early version of the cross-species DNA beast Vincent has become. Maybe his mutations are different or not as advanced as Vincent's which is why he does not have the control Vincent does. Did someone mention that maybe he cannot change back? I said that maybe all the drugs were to control him from beasting out cause he could't 1. control himself as a beast and 2. maybe once in beast form it was hard for him to return to his normal self LOL
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Apr 22, 2013 22:26:00 GMT -5
Now that you mention it, I think Gabe knew all along who the "mole" was; he just wanted to see how it played out. When Evan confessed Cat said, "he took the blame." and Gabe replied, "he was to blame." Gabe knew then. He wants Cat to be protected because he needs her to give up Vincent. He needs her to trust him. The question remains -- are Gabe's intentions "good" (e.g., he needs assistance with his beastliness and wants to end M) or "evil" (e.g., he is part of M or another organization that wants to hunt Vincent for ill purposes)?
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Apr 22, 2013 22:27:57 GMT -5
Sorry about that, Yolie. Read first...then post! LOL!!
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Post by DeadLikeWindsorJulz on Apr 22, 2013 22:36:42 GMT -5
I mean Insatiable already showed us that he's totally shady. And nobody ever saw Ray Shenkman after he tried to make a deal with Gabe... so I'm guessing he's pretty much a baddie. Maybe Gabe didn't "murder" Ray Sheckman, but beasted out on him in anger instead? What do you all think?
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Apr 22, 2013 22:46:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't know, I'm just saying as far as we know, Gabe was the last one to see Ray alive. We know M. didn't kill him b/c they thought Evan did it... which leaves Gabe and the trigger happy cops...
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Apr 22, 2013 23:10:54 GMT -5
Sorry about that, Yolie. Read first...then post! LOL!! No problem! LOL It's hard keeping up...Like I said we need to keep a scorecard LOL
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Apr 22, 2013 23:12:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't know, I'm just saying as far as we know, Gabe was the last one to see Ray alive. We know M. didn't kill him b/c they thought Evan did it... which leaves Gabe and the trigger happy cops... Nope.. ONE more person who knew about things most likely since the happy trigger cops were also with him too..... JOE BISHOP how's that? LOL
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Post by ragulr25 on Apr 23, 2013 0:39:00 GMT -5
did anybody see the new ME. these cw guys are something else where do they get these type of actors????lol he is much better looking than max brown lets hope he brings more viewers innto our show
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