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Post by evanarose on Sept 15, 2016 14:52:51 GMT -5
Since tonight is the final episode *snif<edited> , I thought I'd create a thread just where you can put thoughts on BATB overall. You can choose to do the Q and A format or your own way.
What got you into BATB?
What did you enjoy most about the show?
What will you miss about the show?
Favourite behind-the-scenes footage/photo?
Best moment or scene in batb overall?
Favourite episode?
Favourite acting moment?
Funniest moment?
Favourite season?
Favourite romantic moment?
Craziest fangirling/fanboy moment? As in what's the craziest thing you have done for batb? Happy with the ending? If you could write an alternate ending/season 5 what would it be?
After watching the finale, what you predict the writers wouldve done batb season 5?
Has watching BATB changed you in any way? Learnt anything from the show?
Thoughts/comments on the series as a whole:
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Sept 15, 2016 18:59:36 GMT -5
I. WILL. CRY. when I respond further to this tomorrow.
Feeling nostalgic because it is only ONE HOUR SIX MINUTES until the Finale, I will say that I have watched BATB from DAY 1.
I was a HUGE fan of the original BATB with Linda Hamilton and Ron Perlman. That show was truly my First Love. MY MOM, of all people, read the newspaper article that stated that KK had been cast in the upcoming REBOOT of the series. She had the article spread out on the dining room table waiting for me when I came over as a surprise.
I had loved KK on Smallville. Even tolerated her on "Chuck," since I really didn't want her character "Hannah" to come in-between Chuck and Sarah. So I really DID believe KK would be perfect to portray Catherine Chandler.
And the rest, as they say, is History. I LOVED KK and Jay's portrayals of VINCAT because they made me BELIEVE in the chemistry and love onscreen, just as KK had made me believe in Lana/Clark. That has kept me glued to the screen for 4 years running despite what BK did to the show with his "vision."
LOVE everything about the series from the cast to my fellow fans. Will post more tomorrow after seeing the Finale.
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Post by jefferen on Sept 15, 2016 19:20:46 GMT -5
I'll be back tomorrow after the finale if I can pick myself up from my tears puddle. Still can't believe it's really over
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Post by batb4evr1 on Sept 15, 2016 21:19:51 GMT -5
I'll be back tomorrow after the finale if I can pick myself up from my tears puddle. Still can't believe it's really over I'm an emotional wreck right now so I am with you dear jefferen! I have to get to bed to be oh so professional tomorrow. As our Cat said to Vincent, I have to keep from mind from going back to thoughts of VinCat at the office tomorrow. I can't rerun the issue on my laptop too much to focus on.
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Post by stradawg on Sept 16, 2016 13:49:13 GMT -5
Possibly the wrong thread for this, since it's about the board and not the show, but I've been lurking here since the board's inception. I've really enjoyed the banter among the loyal Beasties, so thanks to everyone who posted!
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Sept 16, 2016 13:56:35 GMT -5
Possibly the wrong thread for this, since it's about the board and not the show, but I've been lurking here since the board's inception. I've really enjoyed the banter among the loyal Beasties, so thanks to everyone who posted! So glad you posted. You have been around a very long time........let me just say a formal "welcome"! Now that the series is over, love to hear your overall impressions.......did you enjoy it? What brought you to watch in the beginning? Thoughts? It is nice to hear from Beasties anytime, anywhere!
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Post by BeastieBoy on Sept 16, 2016 14:16:53 GMT -5
What got you into BATB?Kristin I was a fan of Smallville. Lana was my favorite character and that show made me a fan of Kristin. But when she left Smallville, I started to lose interest in Smallville and never really kept up with KK's whereabouts either. I happened to be flipping channels one day and discovered BATB on the CW by pure chance and only because I recognized Kristin. The episode was 202 Kidnapped, I caught it right at the start of the ep and was like "Hey that's Lana!". I'm probably one of the few that watched a good portion of S2 without even knowing what happened in S1. Vincent had lost his memory, so I was learning the back story along with Vincent. What did you enjoy most about the show?
The dark and achingly romantic pairing of VinCat in S1. Probably what made most of us fall in love with the show. But Kristin was still the main attraction for me, so I enjoyed S2, S3 and S4, even the parts when VinCat were apart. What will you miss about the show?
Not having the gorgeous Kristin Kreuk on my TV screen anymore. And all the beasties! Favourite behind-the-scenes footage/photo? Best moment or scene in batb overall?
So many, but that VinCat kiss during AMP was breathtaking. Favourite episode?
Very hard to choose! I'd say a tie between "Bridesmaids Up!" and "Heart of Darkness". Favourite acting moment?
Again very hard to choose! Probably one of Kristin's emotional crying scenes. So many, but the 412 graveyard scene is fresh in my mind. Funniest moment?
When JT smacks Vincent on the head with a broom during his dream in 405 "It's a Wonderful Beast". Favourite season?
S1 Favourite romantic moment?
When Cat senses Vincent at her dad's wedding, turns and sees it's him Craziest fangirling/fanboy moment? As in what's the craziest thing you have done for batb?409,000+ votes for the 2016 PCAs, 317,000+ votes for the 2015 PCA's. So happy we won 4 years in a row!!! Happy with the ending? If you could write an alternate ending/season 5 what would it be?
I'm happy with the ending. The only thing I would have changed would have been VinCat in a romantic scene for the final shot vs. chasing after the purse snatcher. After watching the finale, what you predict the writers wouldve done batb season 5?
I'm actually glad there is no S5, because I really think the current crop of writers were running out of new ideas. I'd only want S5 if Jennifer and Sheri returned as Show Runners. Has watching BATB changed you in any way? Learnt anything from the show?
Yup, doing crazing things like joining a TV fan forum, joining twitter, and voting like a lunatic on various polls and the PCA. Never before and never again. Thoughts/comments on the series as a whole:
Cheers to everyone who brought us this show, that became such an endearing part of our lives!
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Sept 16, 2016 16:56:38 GMT -5
Due to being in a time-crunch due to preparation for an upcoming trial for a client, I will have to answer the questions piecemeal when I have a chance.
As to an ALTERNATE ENDING/SEASON 5:
I would have had a FIVE YEAR FLASHFORWARD. VinCat are in the park with their little one, who is 4 years, 6 months old (yes, I would have had Cat unknowingly pregnant at the time they left NY for Paris. While VinCat are lovingly spooning on their picnic blanket talking about how perfect their lives are and how EVERYTHING has finally come together for them and their small family, WE THE VIEWERS see that little Miss Pigtails has GLOWING EYES at something in the distance. VinCat completely MISS the eye-glow, since the child is facing away from them and looking towards the distance.
VinCat gather their things together, retrieve Little Miss Pigtails, and head home due to the sun having set and darkness closing in. As they enter their darkened doorway, Vincent asks his daughter what she loved most about their visit to the park. And Little Miss Pigtails says that she liked seeing the butterfly until it flew to the GLOW-Y -EYED man she saw staring at her. And VinCat are IMMEDIATELY on alert, and questioning their daughter, right before Vincent SENSES another BEAST PRESENCE in their home.
Realizing that Vincent is aware of him, the Outsider jumps down and tries to grab the child, but Vincent and Cat fight off the individual Beast together. He runs out before they can question him, but he calls back that he is not alone and the "others" will be back for the Child. And that VinCat had better join them, as they would be better Protecters then the government and others also coming after the child.
Little Miss Pigtails has not cowered or fled during the exchange. Or even seems surprised. Although Vincent wasn't aware that his daughter had ever seen his eyes glow before, she HAS. PLUS, she tells a SHOCKED VINCAT that the "green necklace" she found and played with JUST earlier that week made her "SEE" other glowy-eyed people like her and Daddy. And some even "called out" to her. One in particular said that "they" were coming and WERE her FAMILY too!
VinCat realize that Little Miss Pigtails found the GEM, and she had an entirely different reaction to it. It apparently connected her to other beasts in the world, many of which are held CAPTIVE or used by various organizations OR work for various governments willingly OR OTHERWISE. And ALL of these Beasts AND their Organizations NOW know of their little brilliant offspring's existence AND that she could CONNECT, CONTROL, etc. other beasts.
And Vincent and Cat find a MESSAGE waiting for them when they check their phones from JT who, in working for a GOvernment Tech Firm, has heard about an ORDER being sent out to RETRIEVE this all-important Child that has gone out worldwide. And so VinCat quickly realize they can't remain in Paris, AND they WILL be forced to choose a SIDE in order to protect their child.
I rather think the above scenario WOULD be in keeping with the CW's LOVE for superheroes. You also WOULD have Cat's GENETICS unwillingly and unwittingly PLAY A FACTOR in the child's talents, as Vanessa HAD known from WAY back in the day. Vanessa's Chimera necklace would have actually COME from some such organization from the distant distant past that had a connection to beasts AND those that COULD mate/control beasts due to their BOND or their genetics.
SO YOU WOULD find out that VinCat's being together is literally a bonding right down to the molecular level, and that Cat's genetics (both the Reynolds and Vanessa's side) breeding with Vincent's beast produced a particularly RARE form of Beast that would naturally be a LEADER and one that other beasts would be drawn to protect and obey. So the CHILD would be MUCH sought after, particularly as the GEM was created to particularly ENHANCE someone of this RARE genetic combination. Because THAT would be how BEASTS HAD survived through the millenium, despite being prone to attact one another due to the otherwise beast-enhancing anger/violence that is normally triggered when two beasts come into close proximity. So Beasts survived by breeding with humans and passing their genetic characteristics, as long as beasts periodically came back the gene pool.
I'd even re-visit VinCat's OWN history, as you learn the REAL reason Vanessa invested SO MUCH time into the Beast programs over the years. She always knew what Cat would produce, since it would be obvious that Cat was attracted/drawn to beasts on some level she would not know about. HENCE why Cat NEVER feared Vincent in the Pilot, even as a 19-year-old girl. She could "sense" on some fundamental level Vincent's own immediate attraction AND bond with her from the first moment they met. He really was MEANT for her, even down to their core genetics. Which is WHY they can affect one another so much AND can't really meet their own full individual potential if either lost the other. Because they really ARE better together than apart.
Again, gives a chance to make the sci-fi elements work AND present VinCat as deeply bonded, producing a romance that never lessens in any way but only grows over time. PLUS, you have "others" out there in hiding in potentially the SAME way as VinCat with the same issues. (HEY, you COULD even have an Underground Community somewhere similar to the first series that formed due to their individual members needing to be in hiding.) AND you could delve back into those "past issues" and things that Evan MIGHT have actually found in Vanessa's folder in "Heart of Darkness." Which was WHY Vanessa's body would have been moved in the first place to TEST for certain characteristics before Reynolds found out and retrieved Vanessa's body. AND FALSIFIED the results with Muirfield so that his offspring (Catherine) would NOT have been identified with the "special traits" the coders/scientists were looking for.
PLUS, you get to see VinCat at their BEST---lovers on the run with their child, totally committed to keeping their little family TOGETHER. And how CLOSE VinCat are and even able to be happy because they have themselves, their love, and their child. But their NEW MISSION would be to find a way to keep their daughter alive AND find a way for her to have a future NOT on the run. Which MIGHT mean that they had to surrender custody of her to keep her alive. You would have SO many possibilities and chances to see VinCat determined to make EVERY moment count, etc.
AND it would bring the whole "gang" back together again in NY since JT and Tess would both be based there AND in positions of authority or with access to who was coming after the family. You could even see VinCat leading different lives in different places, having to team up with others in similar situations, etc.
(Could also be cute if JT and Tess had a wee little one as well that had a sibling-style relationship develop with VinCat's little precious.)
At any rate, that would be one way to go that presents constant moral pressures on what you do to protect your family, new reasons for being on the run versus settling down and potential conflict that still presents VinCat united throughout it all. PLUS see cute family time, maybe even time with a similar Underground Community like in the original series. Would work for me. (BUT THEN I'D TAKE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING TO KEEP VINCAT!!!)
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Post by batb4evr1 on Sept 16, 2016 23:58:23 GMT -5
Due to being in a time-crunch due to preparation for an upcoming trial for a client, I will have to answer the questions piecemeal when I have a chance.
As to an ALTERNATE ENDING/SEASON 5:
I would have had a FIVE YEAR FLASHFORWARD. VinCat are in the park with their little one, who is 4 years, 6 months old (yes, I would have had Cat unknowingly pregnant at the time they left NY for Paris. While VinCat are lovingly spooning on their picnic blanket talking about how perfect their lives are and how EVERYTHING has finally come together for them and their small family, WE THE VIEWERS see that little Miss Pigtails has GLOWING EYES at something in the distance. VinCat completely MISS the eye-glow, since the child is facing away from them and looking towards the distance.
VinCat gather their things together, retrieve Little Miss Pigtails, and head home due to the sun having set and darkness closing in. As they enter their darkened doorway, Vincent asks his daughter what she loved most about their visit to the park. And Little Miss Pigtails says that she liked seeing the butterfly until it flew to the GLOW-Y -EYED man she saw staring at her. And VinCat are IMMEDIATELY on alert, and questioning their daughter, right before Vincent SENSES another BEAST PRESENCE in their home.
Realizing that Vincent is aware of him, the Outsider jumps down and tries to grab the child, but Vincent and Cat fight off the individual Beast together. He runs out before they can question him, but he calls back that he is not alone and the "others" will be back for the Child. And that VinCat had better join them, as they would be better Protecters then the government and others also coming after the child.
Little Miss Pigtails has not cowered or fled during the exchange. Or even seems surprised. Although Vincent wasn't aware that his daughter had ever seen his eyes glow before, she HAS. PLUS, she tells a SHOCKED VINCAT that the "green necklace" she found and played with JUST earlier that week made her "SEE" other glowy-eyed people like her and Daddy. And some even "called out" to her. One in particular said that "they" were coming and WERE her FAMILY too!
VinCat realize that Little Miss Pigtails found the GEM, and she had an entirely different reaction to it. It apparently connected her to other beasts in the world, many of which are held CAPTIVE or used by various organizations OR work for various governments willingly OR OTHERWISE. And ALL of these Beasts AND their Organizations NOW know of their little brilliant offspring's existence AND that she could CONNECT, CONTROL, etc. other beasts.
And Vincent and Cat find a MESSAGE waiting for them when they check their phones from JT who, in working for a GOvernment Tech Firm, has heard about an ORDER being sent out to RETRIEVE this all-important Child that has gone out worldwide. And so VinCat quickly realize they can't remain in Paris, AND they WILL be forced to choose a SIDE in order to protect their child.
I rather think the above scenario WOULD be in keeping with the CW's LOVE for superheroes. You also WOULD have Cat's GENETICS unwillingly and unwittingly PLAY A FACTOR in the child's talents, as Vanessa HAD known from WAY back in the day. Vanessa's Chimera necklace would have actually COME from some such organization from the distant distant past that had a connection to beasts AND those that COULD mate/control beasts due to their BOND or their genetics.
SO YOU WOULD find out that VinCat's being together is literally a bonding right down to the molecular level, and that Cat's genetics (both the Reynolds and Vanessa's side) breeding with Vincent's beast produced a particularly RARE form of Beast that would naturally be a LEADER and one that other beasts would be drawn to protect and obey. So the CHILD would be MUCH sought after, particularly as the GEM was created to particularly ENHANCE someone of this RARE genetic combination. Because THAT would be how BEASTS HAD survived through the millenium, despite being prone to attact one another due to the otherwise beast-enhancing anger/violence that is normally triggered when two beasts come into close proximity. So Beasts survived by breeding with humans and passing their genetic characteristics, as long as beasts periodically came back the gene pool.
I'd even re-visit VinCat's OWN history, as you learn the REAL reason Vanessa invested SO MUCH time into the Beast programs over the years. She always knew what Cat would produce, since it would be obvious that Cat was attracted/drawn to beasts on some level she would not know about. HENCE why Cat NEVER feared Vincent in the Pilot, even as a 19-year-old girl. She could "sense" on some fundamental level Vincent's own immediate attraction AND bond with her from the first moment they met. He really was MEANT for her, even down to their core genetics. Which is WHY they can affect one another so much AND can't really meet their own full individual potential if either lost the other. Because they really ARE better together than apart.
Again, gives a chance to make the sci-fi elements work AND present VinCat as deeply bonded, producing a romance that never lessens in any way but only grows over time. PLUS, you have "others" out there in hiding in potentially the SAME way as VinCat with the same issues. (HEY, you COULD even have an Underground Community somewhere similar to the first series that formed due to their individual members needing to be in hiding.) AND you could delve back into those "past issues" and things that Evan MIGHT have actually found in Vanessa's folder in "Heart of Darkness." Which was WHY Vanessa's body would have been moved in the first place to TEST for certain characteristics before Reynolds found out and retrieved Vanessa's body. AND FALSIFIED the results with Muirfield so that his offspring (Catherine) would NOT have been identified with the "special traits" the coders/scientists were looking for.
PLUS, you get to see VinCat at their BEST---lovers on the run with their child, totally committed to keeping their little family TOGETHER. And how CLOSE VinCat are and even able to be happy because they have themselves, their love, and their child. But their NEW MISSION would be to find a way to keep their daughter alive AND find a way for her to have a future NOT on the run. Which MIGHT mean that they had to surrender custody of her to keep her alive. You would have SO many possibilities and chances to see VinCat determined to make EVERY moment count, etc.
AND it would bring the whole "gang" back together again in NY since JT and Tess would both be based there AND in positions of authority or with access to who was coming after the family. You could even see VinCat leading different lives in different places, having to team up with others in similar situations, etc.
(Could also be cute if JT and Tess had a wee little one as well that had a sibling-style relationship develop with VinCat's little precious.)
At any rate, that would be one way to go that presents constant moral pressures on what you do to protect your family, new reasons for being on the run versus settling down and potential conflict that still presents VinCat united throughout it all. PLUS see cute family time, maybe even time with a similar Underground Community like in the original series. Would work for me. (BUT THEN I'D TAKE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING TO KEEP VINCAT!!!) alwayscrazedbatbfan -- Your Season 5 would be outstanding and a winning season!!!
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Post by joyabeast on Sept 17, 2016 3:30:23 GMT -5
If there would have been I would want it to start with that kyle is really a beast but he is a good person. DHS uncover the whole Braxton conspiracy against V. Cat is pragant and V is taking care of her. I want s5 to focus on Cat rather than Vincent. I want more detail about her mother and why and how she got invloved with M.
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Post by BeastieBoy on Sept 17, 2016 13:19:03 GMT -5
As I mentioned above, the only thing I would have changed with the ending is the final shot. I enjoyed the purse snatching scene, but would have preferred something like this:
After the Scooby gang reunion, the scene fades out while the gang is still talking happily at the table. It fades back with the next scene, Catherine/Isabelle showing Vincent/Adam her one year anniversary surprise gift to him. She's found a new home for them, an apartment complete with a roof top and fire escape. They go up to the roof top, as the sun sets on the Eiffel Tower and stars begin to appear, they talk about their lives being just about perfect. This time Cat pulls a rose from her coat, V laughs says "I love you", they embrace and kiss. A long deep passionate kiss, with a close up and slow 360 camera spin around them. Scene fades to black and the credits roll.
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Sept 18, 2016 17:08:40 GMT -5
Favorite Episode:
AMP all the way, baby!!! And not just because of the incredibly HOT and tender and OH SO ROMANTIC love scene. The way Cat tells Vincent she TRUSTS him and knows he won't hurt her beforehand. . . . Sigh. SWOONWORTHY. And the way Vincent LOOKS at her in response. They could have dimmed to black at that point and still had me fanning myself and in need of an arctic blast!
Funniest Episode Moment:
Hhmmm. So many little funny moments occurred throughout the series. This question may actually be the toughest one for me.
1) Vincent and Cat looking forward to their day alone, start to kiss, and then Vincent pulls away suddenly and says, "Three, two. . ." and we hear Tess knock on the door. And then a little later when Vincent is trying to bond with Tess, but Tess and Cat are trying NOT to laugh at the fact that Vincent's PANTS are unzipped from where he was going to take them off to do laundry (AND to do Cat. . . . darn Tess' interruption!)
And Cat and Tess later joking on the room was cute AND funny as well.
2) Almost ALL of JT's one-liners throughout the first few episodes of Season 1 that focused on his surefire belief that Cat was going to get them all killed! "We're all going to die! I'm going to get a Tums!" JT seeing Cat at the warehouse AFTER he had had the earlier baseball bat incident with her --"I thought I heard squealing!" [in reference to her being a cop] and then telling her that she owed him for the money he spent on the icepack he needed!
3) Cat's preoccupation with PEEING around Vincent!! We see this in "Beast Is the New Black" when they are in the bathroom together in her apartment and she comments on what if she needs to pee! Then again, we have her talking about how badly she needs to pee before the action starts with the Saudi Prince!
4) The JT/Cat conversation in "Cold Turkey" that is just so pathetically funny for poor Cat! When she is trying to find some way to get JT to go to the Love Cabin instead of her. Her comment on what if they have their clothes off! Especially after she just had to wipe all Vincent's fingerprints off in Alex's apartment!
5) "About Last Night" --Gabe and Vincent squaring off against one another and acting like two year olds fighting over Catherine. "I was going to say 7!"
My OWN Added Category: MOST SATISFYING MOMENT IN AN EPISODE:
Catherine slapping Gabe. It was just SO wonderful. And cathartic. And not enough. Maybe the pool stick though the heart. . . . No, that Slap was just SO satisfying. Still love that moment. (ALTHOUGH, still wishing Cat had NEVER gotten it on with the G-man so that I wouldn't HAVE to NEED that Slap moment so much!
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Sept 18, 2016 17:23:00 GMT -5
FAVORITE ROMANTIC MOMENT and FAVORITE SCENE:
HOW is this a question for anyone?? THAT whole ending scene in AMP from where Catherine just SO LOVINGLY expresses how much she trusts and loves Vincent. He just looks SO into her and in love with her BEFORE he even touches her!!! AND THEN. . .THAT. . . SCENE!!!!!! (I felt almost guilty watching the thing because it just FELT so intimate and loving between VinCat!!) Jay and KK should have BOTH gotten an EMMY for that episode!!!! You could literally FEEL and SEE the love. THAT MOMENT when Vincent starts to beast out, Catherine just LOOKS at him so lovingly, and he calms and kisses her. . . .
My other Additional Category: FAVORITE EPISODE OPENER:
I would have to say that I am TORN between "Insatiable" and "Saturn Returns." When you see Vincent struggling to sleep BECAUSE you just KNOW he is thinking about Cat and wanting to be with her. AND we the viewers get to see Vincent's most excellent and PERFECTLY sculpted body while he tosses and turns, stands, etc. AAAHHHHH.
And the opener to "Insatiable." I LOVE how VinCat have somehow managed to TRASH Vincent's room in their amorous activities, which were obviously WAY MORE extensive AFTER the screen cut to black at the end of AMP!!!! And Vincent so GIDDY and happy after the previous night! Clearly a man with NO REGRETS for how he spent his previous evening trashing the place!!! And then falling back onto the bed with Cat. . . . YEAH BABY!!!! You have FUNNY, HAPPY, VINCAT LOVE and romance ALL in one opening scene. It does NOT get better than that in BATB-land, I tell ya!
FAVORITE SEASON: Like there could be any other real answer: ONE!!!!
We have Sherri and Jenn at their BEST!!!! And so MANY beautiful and priceless VinCat scenes. THAT CONVERSATION in the woods in "Cold Turkey" between VinCat. THOSE LOOKS and speeches in the artist's studio in "Worth." The MEMORIES and MOMENTS from Season 1 just go on and on and on. . . .
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Post by batb4evr1 on Sept 18, 2016 20:03:44 GMT -5
BeastieBoy and alwayscrazedbatbfan , I am going to miss you both so. Have always absolutely loved and most definitely love your comments in this thread. Considering how they chose to end it I would have preferred that we not only get the shot of VinCat running towards the camera after the purse snatcher but see JT, Tess and Heather running after them in the background and then a camera freeze for about a minute to capture the group and then they all race out of the shot and the frame fades to black. It makes it so painful that the show has ended when I think about how much more we could have shared in our posts had the show continued for a 5th Season.
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Post by BeastieBoy on Sept 19, 2016 3:12:36 GMT -5
3) Cat's preoccupation with PEEING around Vincent!! We see this in "Beast Is the New Black" when they are in the bathroom together in her apartment and she comments on what if she needs to pee! Then again, we have her talking about how badly she needs to pee before the action starts with the Saudi Prince! LOL. There were at least 2 other instances of Cat's pee encounters with Vincent: 104 "Basic Instinct" - During baseball practice, after she ran after the ball and met V, Joe yells out about what's taking so long. She yells back "I'm peeing". 202 "Kidnapped" - As Vincent leaves her tied up in the house boat, she says "you just gonna leave me here? What if I need to pee?"
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