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Post by Jewels on May 31, 2016 4:03:45 GMT -5
I have just downloaded tunnel bear so could someone please tell me how I get to view the episode as we don't get it back in the UK until July and I seriously can't wait that long. So any help would be much appreciated. Ok Open tunnel bear first and select canada let it do its thing when it tells you that you are now ready open your internet and then the showcase link. It might take a minute to load and then enjoy. I think you have to be using firefox or google and it has to be on a desktop or laptop.
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Post by sweetrosie29 on May 31, 2016 4:52:28 GMT -5
Thanks I'll give it a go
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Post by Jewels on May 31, 2016 5:53:36 GMT -5
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Post by zelly309 on May 31, 2016 7:14:21 GMT -5
Hej BeastieBoy I think reading Zellys fanfiction influenced you more than you thought. With S I meant only the Season. Perhaps we now have switched roles. I wonder now if I should see the show through tunnel bear or should wait patiently until Thursday. Anyway I'm glad about every spoiler so go on with your description of the ep. LOL. Yeah it's all Zelly's fault! Actually, I'm still very upset that Showcase and the CW don't air on the same nights! I really think it hurts the viewership in the US. Spoilers and other people's opinion can influence one's enthusiasm to watch. So I still try to be as spoiler free as possible. For me, I always enjoy something the most when I have absolutely no idea at all what is going to happen. Hey!!!! Why is it my fault??!!!! Cheeky Lol
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on May 31, 2016 9:40:43 GMT -5
I can tell already that I will be SUFFERING waiting until Thursday to see this episode!
And BeastieBoy, you really DID surrender to the darkside!!! I truly will be the LAST to see this episode when it actually airs on Thursday!
And as to WHY Heather chose Cat's bed---now THAT is a throwback to S1 in my opinion. Remember how Heather and her then-boyfriend were "christening" EVERY room in Cat's apartment (you know, the episode where the Judge gets run over by the car)? Obviously, Heather seems to be continuing THAT tradition!
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Post by bbatb on May 31, 2016 11:36:16 GMT -5
Finally got my vpn to work and it is awful slow like beastieboy said. Yes, lots of S3 feels. It was a good episode, just loved the honeymoon and that it was Cat that didn't want to leave the bed. Overall it was a great episode. I'm unsure of how I feel about the Season 4 so far, I know it's only one episode, but I feel like there is something missing, I can't quite put my finger on it yet, but then again it could just be mixed emotions and sadness as this is the final season. For some reason, I thinking about the atmosphere of S1&S2 during the whole episode. And I just love Jay&KK together they honestly make the show and the show is absolutely crap imo without them. To me, the atmosphere of S1 & S2 was very different from S3 or this 401 episode. I don't think we'll ever get quite the same atmosphere of S1 again, Kern's style of show running is just different. It's much more superhero-ish/comic like, while S1 and most of S2 were more grounded in reality. You'd never get a scene with Cat doing that unreal martial arts move to free herself from the beast hunter in S1 or S2. But the honeymoon scenes alone made this a great episode for me! I also love seeing them as a loving couple, united against the world. I was thinking about what you said here and I agree that S1 and even parts of S2 were more 'grounded' and after a few episodes of S1 you even 'believed' that Vincent was a beast and no question about that - the military experiment was possible and not too far out in left field. But then BK - like you said - changed things and took the story into a different direction. I still could follow about the beasts - even the redhead - but the introduction of the gem was asking a lot. The simiilarity to Kryptonite was too much for me and there NEVER was an explanation as to why this gem had this kind of effect on beasts. Who found it and how did they discover its properties? They opened the door and let the gem out, but then they slammed it into our faces and just TOLD us what they needed for the episode. That is just one example, there were so many more questions and inconsistencies about Rebecca and Alistair (and they did not get answered in S3 either). Oh, and that 'freeing herself' would not have been necessary, it they had not messed with Vincent's powers AGAIN. BK wrote 201 where Vincent picked out Catherine's heartbeat amongst a huge crowd in the middle of NYC with traffic all around him and here he could not do it, even though he was EXPECTING a move from the assassin and his senses were trained on his wife to avoid just such an attack. THAT is cutting corners AGAIN. I still liked the episode - remember, I lowered my bar and it delivered on other things.
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on May 31, 2016 11:49:59 GMT -5
I probably shouldn't comment on what I haven't yet seen, but here goes as to the issue of the Heartbeat thing.
In 201, we saw how Vincent pauses in the street in the middle of his mission because he hears Catherine's heartbeat. I actually LOVED that small touch that showed how even though he might not remember her personally, his body knew AND was attuned to his soulmate.
However, a point could be made that Vincent in 201 was focusing on his mission and had buried his emotions. At that time, he wasn't looking for a relationship with Catherine and put the mission first. In 211, Vincent once again is honed-in on his mission of listening for the bad guys to come into the boathouse and hears Cat's heartbeat. Again, at that time, he was angry at Catherine and separated from her.
Now, in 401, you have a very-committed Vincent agonizing over the fate of his very loved soulmate. That kind of emotional tie would complicate the "mission." It may be that the his emotions keep Vincent from being able to hone-in to Cat's heartbeat with the kind of HUMAN concentration that he needs. (In other words, the thought of Cat in danger pushes him into beastly combat mode, thus preventing the Concentration Element otherwise necessary to FOCUS on Cat's heartbeat.)
In 202, Vincent tells Cat that he has to be looking into her eyes to tell if she is lying, and he concentrates directly on her in the boathouse. Again, he has to be "in the mission" and focusing directly on her, emotions carefully tucked away. (That may, of course, have been his excuse just to get closer to her. Again, I hate that they never explain things.)
So Vincent's reaction in 401 CAN be explained possibly. I just wish that the characters WOULD have that discussion, because if I was Catherine, I would certainly want to know just WHY he couldn't make out the heartbeat when he presumably always could before.
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Post by Ilaria on May 31, 2016 13:46:47 GMT -5
I love JT and Heather they are so funny together
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on May 31, 2016 13:59:11 GMT -5
That is one S3 thing that I actually AM looking forward to in S4, should the trend continue--the JT/Heather bond. If I wasn't so madly passionately VinCat everything, I would even look forward to the JT/Heather scenes AND to how Tess deals with this ongoing.
Because that IS the thing--JT never goes to Heather first. He goes to her typically AFTER Tess shuts him down or if it is an issue that Tess would not want to deal with (such as tossing yourself down a staircase to prove a point about healing powers). JT just knows he can naturally count on Heather. And that should irritate Tess to some degree given what that basically says about Tess.
But I like the JT/Heather moments. They are often there to add the comic relief, but that IS how I ended up finally liking Heather. Her loyalty and trust of JT, and her being just generally glad to be included in the gang has made me warm to Heather. Her loyalty to Cat, once she learned the full beast secrets, has been charming and MISSED in Tess at times. And Nicole can just play Heather in that JUST right way that bounces off all the other characters so well.
So I WILL be glad to see JT continuing to approach Heather to help him with Beast Issues when Tess won't. AND to see how Tess handles that moving forward.
(After all, I must face that Brad Kern would never just give me 45 minutes of nothing but VinCat. Even though my pointy beast teeth salivate at the thought. . . . )
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Post by BeastieBoy on May 31, 2016 14:59:54 GMT -5
I can tell already that I will be SUFFERING waiting until Thursday to see this episode! And BeastieBoy, you really DID surrender to the darkside!!! I truly will be the LAST to see this episode when it actually airs on Thursday!And as to WHY Heather chose Cat's bed---now THAT is a throwback to S1 in my opinion. Remember how Heather and her then-boyfriend were "christening" EVERY room in Cat's apartment (you know, the episode where the Judge gets run over by the car)? Obviously, Heather seems to be continuing THAT tradition! You won't be alone. There are several US beasties on this board who only seem to comeback when the season is airing live. Hopefully they will comeback again to post after Thursday. OTOH, many fans just don't seem as passionate as before, so we'll see. I will be watching live on Thursday too. I've got a mental list of the things l liked and didn't like about 401, but I'm saving that for after the CW's premiere.
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Post by ebeline on May 31, 2016 16:04:42 GMT -5
I could not resist and wait until Thursday. I saw the first ep and I really like it. I like the way how VinCat deal with eachother also the funny part. And yes, I see a little of the sparkle from S. 1 JT and Tess are better then in S 3 but still I don´t like the pairing. Heather and Kyle are funny we will see how it will go on. In the honeymoon scene as Cat pulls him back, has V actually said "the third time". LOL
He said round three not third time realised that after the second view.
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on May 31, 2016 16:11:26 GMT -5
Although I am a Spoiler Junkie, I will not watch the episode before the live US airing. I still blame the whole Showcase fiasco of airing early for why ratings look the way they do. That may be inaccurate and unfair of me to do so, but I still believe it ultimately hurt the show, especially in Season 3. So I'll watch live on Thursday.
But it is concerning to me that there seems to be much less interest then before. S3 really seems to have cost us viewers. Or maybe the time in between the seasons.
Still, I'm also really hoping everyone wanders back for the US premiere. I will FINALLY see the episode and be full to bursting to talk about it, so I hope people are still excited then!
And BATB actually DOES still continue to get NEW VIEWERS, even now. I actually was in my office with a client when the call from Barnes and Noble came in that my S3 BATB dvd had arrived. I told the client what it was, and she got excited, as she had seen Seasons 1 and 2 on Netflix and become a huge fan. Since they did not have S3 yet, she did not even know there HAD been a S3, let alone that S4 would come on television. So it goes to show that there ARE people continuing to discover the show, even without the publicity.
So I am hoping the fans are still there and want to talk BATB S4! There are still so many of the usual chatterers that haven't reported in yet about the premiere. I'm hoping that means MORE COMPANY on THURSDAY!!!
But I like that the buzz seems good thus far.
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Post by BeastieBoy on May 31, 2016 16:31:42 GMT -5
Although I am a Spoiler Junkie, I will not watch the episode before the live US airing. I still blame the whole Showcase fiasco of airing early for why ratings look the way they do. That may be inaccurate and unfair of me to do so, but I still believe it ultimately hurt the show, especially in Season 3. So I'll watch live on Thursday. But it is concerning to me that there seems to be much less interest then before. S3 really seems to have cost us viewers. Or maybe the time in between the seasons. Still, I'm also really hoping everyone wanders back for the US premiere. I will FINALLY see the episode and be full to bursting to talk about it, so I hope people are still excited then! And BATB actually DOES still continue to get NEW VIEWERS, even now. I actually was in my office with a client when the call from Barnes and Noble came in that my S3 BATB dvd had arrived. I told the client what it was, and she got excited, as she had seen Seasons 1 and 2 on Netflix and become a huge fan. Since they did not have S3 yet, she did not even know there HAD been a S3, let alone that S4 would come on television. So it goes to show that there ARE people continuing to discover the show, even without the publicity. So I am hoping the fans are still there and want to talk BATB S4! There are still so many of the usual chatterers that haven't reported in yet about the premiere. I'm hoping that means MORE COMPANY on THURSDAY!!! But I like that the buzz seems good thus far. I commend you for waiting until Thursday. But Spoilers and Watching Early are two different things to me. I am still trying to be as spoiler free as possible, that means staying away from plot line details before I actually watch, regardless of when I watch for the first time. OTOH, watching early is a philosophical debate with my inner self. Last year, although I easily could have watched early, I nevertheless steadfast in watching dutifully on Thursday nights in order to support the CW and to take my own personal stand against piracy. With 401, I said screw it, the CW has cancelled the show (so ratings really don't matter as much) and the CW/Showcase are jointly to blame for not airing on the same night for the 3rd season in a row (I'm not sure who's more at fault, but I blame Showcase more because the CW sets the premiere date first). So heck with it, I decided to watch 401 at my earliest opportunity. I'm still on the fence if I'll watch the rest of the season early, it may depend on how many returning US beasties chime in after Thursday's premiere to post here. Regardless of whether I watch early, even though I'm not a Nielsen rating box customer, I intend to watch every episode on the CW as it airs.
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Post by ebeline on May 31, 2016 17:32:46 GMT -5
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Post by BeastieBoy on May 31, 2016 17:59:21 GMT -5
Thanks ebeline ! The trailer is also on the cwtv.com batb site, BUT on their main page there's NOTHING about BATB! How sad is that?! The Final Season premiere is this Thursday and the CW can't even bother to put it on their main page!
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