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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Nov 11, 2013 3:57:27 GMT -5
Mmmm... okay don't me here but I liked it... Sometimes it happens that after reading your comments I change my POV and agree with you but, in this case, so far, I am one of the few (together with Beastiegirl I think) that liked the episode. First of all, let me say that, YES, knowing spoilers SPOIL a lot the episode! LOL I have been thinking about keeping away from them sometimes but couldn't help it so far. I will try to be fast with my review: 1. I liked a lot the dynamic between Catherine and Reynolds. Reynolds is a mean tricky guy, trying to put Catherine against Vincent in a very subtle way! Obviously lying to her about his involvement with Muirfield and Vincent...mmmm .. He's great bad-good guy and I like it! 2. Vincent... Thank you writters for giving us some scenes with a shirtless or almost shirtless Vincent... Love them! And they showed how Vincent recovered more memories! that scene was great and the scene after, with Catherine, was also very nice... However, I have to admit that I'm missing some more "magic" between the two of them... So far, I blame to all the craziness going around and the fact that Vincent is not completely Vincent yet, and he has these shortcuts when he becomes a supersoldier with a mission type of guy. 3. Tori a.k.a. the new beast... Okay, I was pretty scared when I saw Vincent's eyes glowing at the forest!! I was NO NO NO!!!! (thanks for this smileys!!!) for a moment I thought: another Alex arc again?? NO WAY! But... nooooo, she just has some kind of influence on beasts that triggers the "heartless beasty side" of them!!! It happened when Tori holds her father's hand and also being around Vincent (that's why he ripped out the heart of the beast!) Vincent' can't control it and they don't know yet that it's because of Tori! it also makes sense with the story Tori explains to Vincent about his father suddently becoming more and more angry and aggresive! Well, darling, that's you, who's causing all this! SPOILER* Now the spoilers at ep 8 about Tori making Vincent want to kill Reynolds make complete sense!*SPOILER END 4. Again I missed JT... why o why??? 5. Tess is sooo heavy and boring... I'm sorry but I don't need her in the show anymore... sorry 6. Gabe ... I don't know what's happening with him... I really don't understand his intentions and so far, he just looks like the typical guy crazy for a girl, all noble trying to make her happy despite his own unhappiness... 7. I was afraid that Vincent killing the beast would make Catherine stay away from him again... Glad to see that she continues being brave and her love for him is bigger than that so, she's willing to help him figure out what's going on! 8. I liked the fights! again, very well done! Said this... I can't wait to feel our VinCat again... that's what brought us all here, and I'm praying for that to come back. But still, I liked this episode, more than previous, still less than the first 4
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Post by feezya on Nov 11, 2013 4:08:36 GMT -5
Mmmm... okay don't me here but I liked it... Sometimes it happens that after reading your comments I change my POV and agree with you but, in this case, so far, I am one of the few (together with Beastiegirl I think) that liked the episode. First of all, let me say that, YES, knowing spoilers SPOIL a lot the episode! LOL I have been thinking about keeping away from them sometimes but couldn't help it so far. I will try to be fast with my review: 1. I liked a lot the dynamic between Catherine and Reynolds. Reynolds is a mean tricky guy, trying to put Catherine against Vincent in a very subtle way! Obviously lying to her about his involvement with Muirfield and Vincent...mmmm .. He's great bad-good guy and I like it! 2. Vincent... Thank you writters for giving us some scenes with a shirtless or almost shirtless Vincent... Love them! And they showed how Vincent recovered more memories! that scene was great and the scene after, with Catherine, was also very nice... However, I have to admit that I'm missing some more "magic" between the two of them... So far, I blame to all the craziness going around and the fact that Vincent is not completely Vincent yet, and he has these shortcuts when he becomes a supersoldier with a mission type of guy. 3. Tori a.k.a. the new beast... Okay, I was pretty scared when I saw Vincent's eyes glowing at the forest!! I was NO NO NO!!!! (thanks for this smileys!!!) for a moment I thought: another Alex arc again?? NO WAY! But... nooooo, she just has some kind of influence on beasts that triggers the "heartless beasty side" of them!!! It happened when Tori holds her father's hand and also being around Vincent (that's why he ripped out the heart of the beast!) Vincent' can't control it and they don't know yet that it's because of Tori! it also makes sense with the story Tori explains to Vincent about his father suddently becoming more and more angry and aggresive! Well, darling, that's you, who's causing all this! Now the spoilers at ep 8 about Tori making Vincent want to kill Reynolds make complete sense! 4. Again I missed JT... why o why??? 5. Tess is sooo heavy and boring... I'm sorry but I don't need her in the show anymore... sorry 6. Gabe ... I don't know what's happening with him... I really don't understand his intentions and so far, he just looks like the typical guy crazy for a girl, all noble trying to make her happy despite his own unhappiness... 7. I was afraid that Vincent killing the beast would make Catherine stay away from him again... Glad to see that she continues being brave and her love for him is bigger than that so, she's willing to help him figure out what's going on! 8. I liked the fights! again, very well done! Said this... I can't wait to feel our VinCat again... that's what brought us all here, and I'm praying for that to come back. But still, I liked this episode, more than previous, still less than the first 4 hmmm... i know tori's causing vincent's reaction, but i didn't realized she's doing the same to her father to till i read your comment. now i'm more intrigue, or confused? Agree that bio dad is sooooo sneaky; slowly feeding Cat with subtle poison. this build up to the "storm" is worrying me, don't want to be left with a "WHAAAAAAAT" during the hiatus saw you've found good use for the new smileys. perfect timing for the addition dont you think
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Nov 11, 2013 4:24:05 GMT -5
Okay I admit..I saw the episode earlier this morning..I wouldn't normally do that since I love waiting UNTIL Monday to watch it. BUT guess what? For the first time here in my area(South Florida) the show is going to be preempted for a sports event, I think it's FOOTBALL not sure. Either way the airing of this episode for me isn't UNTIL Saturday the 16, I COULD NOT WAIT THAT LONG TO WATCH IT! HELL NO!! I watch it on the CW a few times during the week anyway so I will make up for this WEAK MOMENT!! With that said..I truly liked this episode...much more then Reunion and Liar Liar LOL ..It answered a few questions for me and it gave me the answer to Tori's description when she was first cast. I think it's what her 'special' gift is ..What a gift yeah? She has power over her father and with Vincent as well...We know where this is going at least I do... Now we at least I understand why things happen in EP 8 ..We are talking 'control' again, hence why he questions himself MAN OR BEAST I'll have my review in a few days LOL..I'm still taking it in.. All I am going to say...loved the VinCat moments, the shirtless Vincent and the flashbacks AWE Savana YEAH SPOT ON!! I see the same way you do but with a little more insight LOL
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Nov 11, 2013 4:28:07 GMT -5
Okay I admit..I saw the episode earlier this morning..I wouldn't normally do that since I love waiting UNTIL Monday to watch it. BUT guess what? For the first time here in my area(South Florida) the show is going to be preempted for a sports event, I think it's FOOTBALL not sure. Either way the airing of this episode for me isn't UNTIL Saturday the 16, I COULD NOT WAIT THAT LONG TO WATCH IT! HELL NO!! I watch it on the CW a few times during the week anyway so I will make up for this WEAK MOMENT!! With that said..I truly liked this episode...much more then Reunion and Liar Liar LOL ..It answered a few questions for me and it gave me the answer to Tori's description when she was first cast. I think it's what her 'special' gift is ..What a gift yeah? She has power over her father and with Vincent as well...We know where this is going at least I do... Now we at least I understand why things happen in EP 8 ..We are talking 'control' again, hence why he questions himself MAN OR BEAST I'll have my review in a few days LOL..I'm still taking it in.. All I am going to say...loved the VinCat moments, the shirtless Vincent and the flashbacks AWE Savana YEAH SPOT ON!! I see the same way you do but with a little more insight LOL LOL! I tried to be fast in my review! I leave the long posts for you! But yes, we are definetely in the same page!
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Post by ragulr25 on Nov 11, 2013 4:33:45 GMT -5
havent watched the ep yet but sure in about 2 to 3 hours
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 11, 2013 4:35:32 GMT -5
Okay I admit..I saw the episode earlier this morning..I wouldn't normally do that since I love waiting UNTIL Monday to watch it. BUT guess what? For the first time here in my area(South Florida) the show is going to be preempted for a sports event, I think it's FOOTBALL not sure. Either way the airing of this episode for me isn't UNTIL Saturday the 16, I COULD NOT WAIT THAT LONG TO WATCH IT! HELL NO!! I watch it on the CW a few times during the week anyway so I will make up for this WEAK MOMENT!! With that said..I truly liked this episode...much more then Reunion and Liar Liar LOL ..It answered a few questions for me and it gave me the answer to Tori's description when she was first cast. I think it's what her 'special' gift is ..What a gift yeah? She has power over her father and with Vincent as well...We know where this is going at least I do... Now we at least I understand why things happen in EP 8 ..We are talking 'control' again, hence why he questions himself MAN OR BEAST I'll have my review in a few days LOL..I'm still taking it in.. All I am going to say...loved the VinCat moments, the shirtless Vincent and the flashbacks AWE Savana YEAH SPOT ON!! I see the same way you do but with a little more insight LOL why did i not like it?? is it just me, am i going mad here lol. ok i will rewatch now just in case
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Nov 11, 2013 4:39:24 GMT -5
Okay I admit..I saw the episode earlier this morning..I wouldn't normally do that since I love waiting UNTIL Monday to watch it. BUT guess what? For the first time here in my area(South Florida) the show is going to be preempted for a sports event, I think it's FOOTBALL not sure. Either way the airing of this episode for me isn't UNTIL Saturday the 16, I COULD NOT WAIT THAT LONG TO WATCH IT! HELL NO!! I watch it on the CW a few times during the week anyway so I will make up for this WEAK MOMENT!! With that said..I truly liked this episode...much more then Reunion and Liar Liar LOL ..It answered a few questions for me and it gave me the answer to Tori's description when she was first cast. I think it's what her 'special' gift is ..What a gift yeah? She has power over her father and with Vincent as well...We know where this is going at least I do... Now we at least I understand why things happen in EP 8 ..We are talking 'control' again, hence why he questions himself MAN OR BEAST I'll have my review in a few days LOL..I'm still taking it in.. All I am going to say...loved the VinCat moments, the shirtless Vincent and the flashbacks AWE Savana YEAH SPOT ON!! I see the same way you do but with a little more insight LOL why did i not like it?? is it just me, am i going mad here lol. ok i will rewatch now just in case You're entitled to NOT like it..It's OKAY you know? We don't have to like ALL the episodes, I just happen to like basically ALL of them.. LOL
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 11, 2013 4:47:28 GMT -5
why did i not like it?? is it just me, am i going mad here lol. ok i will rewatch now just in case You're entitled to NOT like it..It's OKAY you know? We don't have to like ALL the episodes, I just happen to like basically ALL of them.. LOL lol i know i am, but i dont like not liking an episode, because i love the show. anyway, rewatching now
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Post by ·· K å t ·· on Nov 11, 2013 5:08:29 GMT -5
Ok I just watched this ep and I did it without beeing much spoilered (I'm trying to stay semi-spoiler free by just sticking to pics/ep promos) and I liked it Beautiful Open scene with Vincent sleeping in his bed on naked torso and having flashbacks of Catherine. and then he wakes up with a smile! I also liked so much the next scene when Vinc gone to Cat and she's working out with kickbox, he wanted to know if the dreamed memories was real cute & sweet! and I liked a lot the way they worked out together well done scene! I liked the relationship and the chemistry between Cat and Reynolds, he seems to be good and bad I like this balance even if obviously he's more bad then good I liked also the scene between Vinc and Tori in the wood and I loved he told her about his special person - Cat - and then I loved the way he saved Catherine before she went pierced by the sharp-branch and I have to admit that I liked also the scene when Vinc ripped out the Tori's father heart from his chest, (it seemed to me like some TVD scenes ) anyway I like the fact that he could be and would so dangerous and lethal when he's on a mission; this is the Vinc 2.0 I love it! last I liked the final between Cat and Vinc even if it brought out the question - why he acted in that way, so ruthlessly, WHAT trigger that behavior - and I have my theory about this I think that Vinc special quality is to feels and reacts in that way when he's next to another beast, I don't know but... seems that he's programmed in that way and, by me, that's also the reason that his eyes torned out yellow when he was close to Tori on the wood, maybe the mysterious pills we saw in his kitchen serve to this purpose? my theory
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 11, 2013 5:43:31 GMT -5
ok i rewatched the episode, and I have to admit (once again) i am less negative about it now. i dont know what it is everytime i watch it first time I am more negative than second time round. COULD SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THIS TO ME PLEASE? SERIOUSLY, NOT SURE WHY THIS HAPPENS TO ME. even though i dont think it is poor, i still dont think it was a great episode though and there are things i liked and others i did not like about it LIKED 1) the flashbacks - though i would prefer it if they happened in a more dramatic way rather than vincent getting bits and pieces of memories back - it makes sense that he gets bits and pieces back but i would have liked a bit more drama around his memory gain 2) cat kickboxing, that was cool 3) the frist vincat scene, though I still felt that with both scenes the magic wasn't there like in some other older vincat scenes, not sure why this is the case but I will patiently wait for the magic to come back i know it will 4) the first scene between reynolds and cat in his office 5) the fact that tori brings out vincent's beast side and that explains the old teaser they had brought out a few months ago about the differnece between cat and tori. having said that, that is also abit scary, how much will tori influence him and why does she have that effect on him? would need to find that out! 6) end scene, interesting, and interested to see where they take us with tori's beast and the whole thing with vincents beast side around tori, very intrigued by that, though now i really want them to focus on a few beasts, we have had too many different beasts every episode 7) the way daddy beast moved, lol it was cool and fight scene was solid, did not mind at all seeing an out of control 2.0 vincent though I am not sure i can read him at this moment, as cat also said - two steps forward one step back, or is it one step forward, two steps back?? hm we shall see. 8) The scene were cat hides from daddy beast and his men, that was cool 9) the fact taht cat continues to support vincent despite his unpredictable behaviour and completely understand her confusion and fears
DID NOT LIKE 1) how we have so many things happening in one episode - some scenes developed too fast, cat and dad got too cosy too soon, many more awkward moments needed. u need some episodes for dialogue of that type to happen, does not feel real. and he already starts asking her about boyfriends. all is too rushed IMO. and she did not question him enough either. though i did like the one line he delivered, about falling in love with a lost cause that was a good one liner 2) dialogue poor at points, some of the lines felts contrived. not sure the line between vincent and tori about having somebody special in your life was needed to be delivered in that way and then repeated by tori to catherine and also not sure about all the comments around humanity...could have been written better. also again repetition of honourable line by tess.. yawn 3) Absolutely hated this flatnining (or whatever it is called) storyline, completely non sensical IMO and i think that is one of the main things that mademe dislike the episode first time round. that whole thing was poor, wont even comment on it 4)tess - she really annoys me now, character is dull and redundant, what is her role at the moment other than to piss us off . 50 Gabe - again really confused with him, they better let u sknow soon what he is up to cause it is getting boring 6) No J.T. i need more JT he is the heart and soul of this show, i really dont understand why they do not fit him into the storyline, he is needed, we have an overload of tess and gabe scenes and both of them frankly bore me... 7) COULD SB PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW CAT FOUND OUT VINCNET WAS IN THE FOREST? I REALLY DONT GET THAT, SO IF SOMEBODY HAS AN IDEA PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, I MAY HAVE JUST MISSED IT 8) confused about why each and every beast, even same generation ones react in completley different ways
ok that's it - not loving the episode but glad i am not hating it either
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Post by kiki09 on Nov 11, 2013 5:43:34 GMT -5
You're entitled to NOT like it..It's OKAY you know? We don't have to like ALL the episodes, I just happen to like basically ALL of them.. LOL lol i know i am, but i dont like not liking an episode, because i love the show. anyway, rewatching now Lol! I feel you! I personally found it okay but I'll definitely do a rewatch to consolidate my feelings.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 11, 2013 5:44:46 GMT -5
lol i know i am, but i dont like not liking an episode, because i love the show. anyway, rewatching now Lol! I feel you! I personally found it okay but I'll definitely do a rewatch to consolidate my feelings. i rewatched and now not so negative, posted my thoughts above. i thougth like u it was ok but not great
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Nov 11, 2013 6:00:03 GMT -5
7) COULD SB PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW CAT FOUND OUT VINCNET WAS IN THE FOREST? I REALLY DONT GET THAT, SO IF SOMEBODY HAS AN IDEA PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, I MAY HAVE JUST MISSED IT Anapi, Catherine finds Vincent because of the bottle of wine. When she sees the guys unpacking Vincent's backpack she sees the bottle of wine and says "Cedar woods" or something like that... I knew that bottle would mean something because it was shot few times before that moment! I guess she's a smart girl and summed up 1+1... Vincent was telling her about going to woods, under the stars. etc... and probably he was already packing to bring her somewhere like Cedar woods?
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 11, 2013 6:02:43 GMT -5
ok that's it - not loving the episode but glad i am not hating it either [/quote]Anapi, Catherine finds Vincent because of the bottle of wine. When she sees the guys unpacking Vincent's bagpack she sees the bottle of wine and says "Ceadar woods" or something like that... I knew that bottle would mean something because it was shot few times before that moment! [/quote] lol ok so she saw that bottle and thought he went to cedar woods? or was that a message for her?
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Nov 11, 2013 6:04:53 GMT -5
ok that's it - not loving the episode but glad i am not hating it either Anapi, Catherine finds Vincent because of the bottle of wine. When she sees the guys unpacking Vincent's bagpack she sees the bottle of wine and says "Ceadar woods" or something like that... I knew that bottle would mean something because it was shot few times before that moment! [/quote] lol ok so she saw that bottle and thought he went to cedar woods? or was that a message for her? [/quote] I edited my post. I think it's related to the conversation they had earlier where he told her to go to woods, under the stars... probably he mentioned her where to go...
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