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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Feb 2, 2014 23:34:06 GMT -5
Okay why does it surprise many?? I expected this and I am not even ticked off..Seriously it's just 'sex' ..Obviously Vincent isn't happy with Tori so why get upset over it. Because for some of us, myself included, this is a deal breaker... Not acceptable. Just sex? Mmmm, okay, tell that to the love of your life. Why is this necessary? I'll tell you why, because the epic love story is gone. Period. Game over. They pissed on us and told us it was raining, and like fools, we stood here and took it.
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Post by roar20 on Feb 2, 2014 23:36:06 GMT -5
Am not bothered and tbh I still ship vincat, this is the cw guys... Just look at the relationships in other cw shows, 90210, tvd, gossip girl, hart of dixie, reign. The relationships are usually messed up.
Side note: when do we meet vince's family, surely they know his alive.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 2, 2014 23:38:50 GMT -5
oh yes she did say that to him more than once, she clearly articulated that at the end but also said it in the beginning edit: vincent's feelings were clear as well in thsi episode OK, this will be negative to some, but it has to come out. I am holding so much inside that it needs to find expression: Vincent's feelings were clear? It seems his feelings were he would rather have easy, emotionless sex that wait for or fight for the one he truly loves. th i do not see these two as mutually exclusive him and catherine were not together plus as he also admitted he was not himself, he made the wrong choice. people make mistakes, whether influenced by beast power or because they are hurt, or because they are lost or angry or kidding themlseves or for many other reasons he has got time now to fight for his love and it is clear he will he has reached that realisation before anyone jumps on me i understand not everyone sees it this way, so i am not just saying how i feel and how i see it i can tell u what bothered me about this episode was definitely not vincent nad i am very happy about his realisation what i need to feel a bit more now is the vincat connection whether they are together or not and really hoping for that from 13 onwards
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Post by texasscotian on Feb 2, 2014 23:46:38 GMT -5
Am not bothered and tbh I still ship vincat, this is the cw guys... Just look at the relationships in other cw shows, 90210, tvd, gossip girl, hart of dixie, reign. The relationships are usually messed up. Side note: when do we meet vince's family, surely they know his alive. So true!! Reign is realllly crazy with the messed up relationships!! In my opinion, that show really shows the true definition of triangles!!
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Post by DeadLikeWindsorJulz on Feb 2, 2014 23:46:59 GMT -5
OK, this will be negative to some, but it has to come out. I am holding so much inside that it needs to find expression: Vincent's feelings were clear? It seems his feelings were he would rather have easy, emotionless sex that wait for or fight for the one he truly loves. th i do not see these two as mutually exclusive
him and catherine were not together plus as he also admitted he was not himself, he made the wrong choice. people make mistakes, whether influenced by beast power or because they are hurt, or because they are lost or angry or kidding themlseves or for many other reasons he has got time now to fight for his love and it is clear he will he has reached that realisation before anyone jumps on me i understand not everyone sees it this way, so i am not just saying how i feel and how i see it i can tell u what bothered me about this episode was definitely not vincent nad i am very happy about his realisation what i need to feel a bit more now is the vincat connection whether they are together or not and really hoping for that from 13 onwards Are you serious?!?!?!? If he truly loves Cat, then what he did with Tori is a true betrayal. Period. Yes, people make mistakes. There are consequences for the bad choices people make. However, we know that there will be no consequences for V for his poor choices. Cat will go back to him after he "pines" for a millisecond.
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Post by jemangela on Feb 2, 2014 23:50:21 GMT -5
and I think this is what upsets us all... that he never made it clear to his redheads that Catherine was his first choice and the one he loved... He just goes back to Catherine when those red heads disappear... it seems like Catherine is not his choice at all... she just happens to be the one available all the time, ready to take him back... I honestly want Catherine with anyone...as long as it is not Vincent... Geez! I am even shipping Catherine/Tess right now :lol3:Bless you marikuna7 for making me laugh when all I wanted to do was cry...
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Post by gina on Feb 2, 2014 23:52:01 GMT -5
I still did not see the episode, but I read the comments and I wonder if Tori said that to Vincent because it is very clear how he feels about cat? maybe I´m very posivetily..lol p.s: whatever happens, I still am with this show I am with the show as well. I appreciate the writers and know that it must be challenging with so many writers involved with varying talent and opinions on the direction the show should take. I am curious as to why Tori was killed off. It seems to me that was an "easy out" for Vincent. He didn't need to stand firm on his request for "time apart" from Tori. He did not have to have any more conversations about relationship with her. He did not have to figure out if he could mentor her and yet keep distance. He did not have to deal with guilt about possibly not being her mentor. He did not have to worry about her involving herself in missions while uninvited. Most importantly, he is released from actively making the choice to cut all ties with Tori. IMO, Vincent needs to be able to communicate clearly about where he stands in his relationships. After all, is he "keeping his options open" as was stated on THE TALK show. Perhaps if Tori had left the show in a different way, our Protagonist , Vincent, would have undergone some much needed character growth. I am not being negative; I am interested in the writing process, so I am just throwing an option out there.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 2, 2014 23:56:07 GMT -5
th i do not see these two as mutually exclusive
him and catherine were not together plus as he also admitted he was not himself, he made the wrong choice. people make mistakes, whether influenced by beast power or because they are hurt, or because they are lost or angry or kidding themlseves or for many other reasons he has got time now to fight for his love and it is clear he will he has reached that realisation before anyone jumps on me i understand not everyone sees it this way, so i am not just saying how i feel and how i see it i can tell u what bothered me about this episode was definitely not vincent nad i am very happy about his realisation what i need to feel a bit more now is the vincat connection whether they are together or not and really hoping for that from 13 onwards Are you serious?!?!?!? If he truly loves Cat, then what he did with Tori is a true betrayal. Period. Yes, people make mistakes. There are consequences for the bad choices people make. However, we know that there will be no consequences for V for his poor choices. Cat will go back to him after he "pines" for a millisecond. he did not cheat on catherine they were not together he deluded himself that the path that he shoudl take was the one he took with tori he was kidding himself and made the wrong choice as he admitted himself also influenced by a range of other things, incluing tori herself, his anger, his hurt, his state of mind . he thougth him and catherine were done and thought he had to move on. he realised the error of his ways and that he cannot hide from his feelings and the reality of the situation he broke up with tori once he made that realisation. i do not agree with the way he unwillingly took advantage of tori who clearly has feelings (dependency based feelings btw) but people make mistakes nad htat is ok as long as they acknoweledge them so NO i am not kidding myself, makes sense to me
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Feb 2, 2014 23:56:42 GMT -5
Okay why does it surprise many?? I expected this and I am not even ticked off..Seriously it's just 'sex' ..Obviously Vincent isn't happy with Tori so why get upset over it. Because for some of us, myself included, this is a deal breaker... Not acceptable. Just sex? Mmmm, okay, tell that to the love of your life. Why is this necessary? I'll tell you why, because the epic love story is gone. Period. Game over. They pissed on us and told us it was raining, and like fools, we stood here and took it. I did tell you guys they would 'strongly' imply a relationship or was it ONLY to you anapi -season3baby :)?? ...I said that..Now if they just showed Tori in a Robe coming down from the bedroom and both in robes, what would have happened if they were BOTH in bed together having a chat? Implications were already evident. All I am saying that everyone is so 'upset' knowing this would happen. Also some here were ticked off cause they weren't CLEAR of the kind of relationship they had.. Now it's clear. That's the beef I've had with Tori and Vincent's storyline..Now that I know I can move on .. I understand YOUR limits and some here. So I sympathize with many but since this type of stuff don't bother me I can move on. BTW: The reason why it doesn't BOTHER me is cause I know it's a TV show and it's all about the SHOCK factor and DRAMA.
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Post by Naná on Feb 2, 2014 23:56:54 GMT -5
you know the saying, where there was fire, ashes remain? well...that is as I see and feel Vincat..and i like it!
and said that I'm going to sleep! see you tomorrow or later!
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Post by marikuna7 on Feb 2, 2014 23:58:40 GMT -5
and I think this is what upsets us all... that he never made it clear to his redheads that Catherine was his first choice and the one he loved... He just goes back to Catherine when those red heads disappear... it seems like Catherine is not his choice at all... she just happens to be the one available all the time, ready to take him back... I honestly want Catherine with anyone...as long as it is not Vincent... Geez! I am even shipping Catherine/Tess right now :lol3:Bless you marikuna7 for making me laugh when all I wanted to do was cry... There are reasons for crying, but there are reasons for celebrating... Tori finally kicked the bucket ... Right now we could all take a deep breath... Until the next red head comes around
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 2, 2014 23:58:44 GMT -5
I still did not see the episode, but I read the comments and I wonder if Tori said that to Vincent because it is very clear how he feels about cat? maybe I´m very posivetily..lol p.s: whatever happens, I still am with this show I am with the show as well. I appreciate the writers and know that it must be challenging with so many writers involved with varying talent and opinions on the direction the show should take. I am curious as to why Tori was killed off. It seems to me that was an "easy out" for Vincent. He didn't need to stand firm on his request for "time apart" from Tori. He did not have to have any more conversations about relationship with her. He did not have to figure out if he could mentor her and yet keep distance. He did not have to deal with guilt about possibly not being her mentor. He did not have to worry about her involving herself in missions while uninvited. Most importantly, he is released from actively making the choice to cut all ties with Tori. IMO, Vincent needs to be able to communicate clearly about where he stands in his relationships. After all, is he "keeping his options open" as was stated on THE TALK show. Perhaps if Tori had left the show in a different way, our Protagonist , Vincent, would have undergone some much needed character growth. I am not being negative; I am interested in the writing process, so I am just throwing an option out there. i think part of the problem is that things happen very very very quickly and sooo many things happen in just one episode! . u could easily have 5 episodes just exploring that .. i think that is part of the issue u are describing
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Feb 3, 2014 0:03:48 GMT -5
People I have gone through the 9 pages of this thread and all that has been discussed really is vincent and the Tori sex all that has been dicussed is that...which is a shame really in my frank opinion there is so much more about this episode that should be discussed including that last scene and to be fair yes, sex is a deal breaker for some people but from my understanding most people already knew there was a relationship. to me as i said in episode 10 it was very clear there was a relationship and i understand most people thought the same, unless i do not remember well. but i am keen to discuss a range of things about this episode, good and bad, not just the vincent and tori sexual relationshp
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Post by gina on Feb 3, 2014 0:07:00 GMT -5
dont u think gabes colours started coming out in this episode? u could see he was pissed most of the time, right? and i think he indirectly put pressure on catherine..i really do think his true colours will come out very very soon but maybe i am wrong I noticed that too. Honestly I prefer shady Gabe, he just plays the villain so damn well lol I'm on board. Gabe is going to make some kind of move. After all, Tori is gone and the story will need another antagonist to move the story along. I guess the jewel baddies could become a more constant threat as well.
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Post by texasscotian on Feb 3, 2014 0:09:12 GMT -5
People I have gone through the 9 pages of this thread and all that has been discussed really is vincent and the Tori sex all that has been dicussed is that...which is a shame really in my frank opinion there is so much more about this episode that should be discussed including that last scene and to be fair yes, sex is a deal breaker for some people but from my understanding most people already knew there was a relationship. to me as i said in episode 10 it was very clear there was a relationship and i understand most people thought the same, unless i do not remember well. but i am keen to discuss a range of things about this episode, good and bad, not just the vincent and tori sexual relationshp anapi -season3baby :): If it wasn't so late here.. 1 am Atlantic time, I would love to discuss so many things about this show with you!! But who am I kidding? I can never go right to sleep on Sundays after an episode .. especially one that had me hanging on to my pantyhose and my kleenex box at the end! ! The bromance scene at the end was just I dunno... so sweet and sad at the same time!!
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