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Post by raniamahd on Feb 2, 2014 22:22:08 GMT -5
dear @locaxbatb sorry if my mad made my forget to say thanks for your great effort tonight , i must been really hard for you ! i can't imagine how do you get the courage to watch this crap and write it too ! by the way it seems there is not much of the mythology in the e , and they didn't reveal what Cat's connect with it ? so that was a lie too just a lame excuse to the cheap plot device just like Tori was ?! what is the great purpose of her again and her role in the mythology ? oh yes she was the doorman to her father store and she was the one to tell the selfish jerk he belongs with Cat ! and all that can't be done without her ? Bravo Mr. Kern , well done sir ! You're welcome... Writing content helped me keep my emotions in check. I didn't get all of it down, so you'll see that there is a little more about the mythology...it's progressing slowly. I'll process, then I'll rant and rave...or just decide to stay quiet. I don't like watching twice in a row, so I'll wait to tomorrow night, and do it again. well don't bother yourself dear friend , it was just a though but i really don't care to know any more in fact i don't give a damn about the crap show any more ! i may even translate episodes from the English script without watching and ask some one to review them for me !
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Post by marikuna7 on Feb 2, 2014 22:27:28 GMT -5
Tori reminded me of a 12 year old obsessed, immature < edit>. I wanted to slap the living hell out of her... She acted like a little child, and she also acted like Vincent was her property... And then she storms out in front of everyone because "they treated her bad"... I do not understand how... Catherine even complimented Tori on her dress... Just shows how immature she really is... I was happy when she died... it just pissed me off that she died saving JT! What a waste of seven episodes... the minimal mythology that she brought to the story could have been shown in 1 episode...
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Post by raniamahd on Feb 2, 2014 22:29:01 GMT -5
dear @locaxbatb sorry if my mad made my forget to say thanks for your great effort tonight , i must been really hard for you ! i can't imagine how do you get the courage to watch this crap and write it too ! by the way it seems there is not much of the mythology in the e , and they didn't reveal what Cat's connect with it ? so that was a lie too just a lame excuse to the cheap plot device just like Tori was ?! what is the great purpose of her again and her role in the mythology ? oh yes she was the doorman to her father store and she was the one to tell the selfish jerk he belongs with Cat ! and all that can't be done without her ? Bravo Mr. Kern , well done sir ! So it seems that Tori's only purpose was to be Vincent's mistress!! What a complete waste of 7 episodes! WASTE! What else was her purpose?? NOTHING!! let us be fair to them dear ? they said Tori will bring vincat together (even the name(vincat) is hard for me to write it again ! and she did , because if she didn't die the selfish jerk would be keep doing her until he finds another warm body ! and he would never figure out that he belongs with Cat without her telling him that !
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Post by yoshi on Feb 2, 2014 22:29:05 GMT -5
Well how about that! well I like many beasties was left feeling let down and very disappointed ( I was again fooled by the tweets of those claiming this was going to be a MAJOR game changer! NOT!! Ya game changer as in like Tori is died, and Catherine decides she wants to move with Gabe? Vincent on the other hand does not clearly make his thoughts and feelings known to Tori before she dies, about Catherine, infact he continues to put off this impression throughout the episode that he is unresolved and to me Catherine wasnt a first choice..instead she is just somone there when he needs her and the last person to settle for. If I were Catherine, I wouldnt want vincent back either. This episode was more like a big step further away from each other. I didnt feel the same chemistry and the same excitement as I did in S1. They really screwed the pooch and dissected this series. This show and the personalities of the characters are a complete make over. my thoughts are all over the place...
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Post by sunshine978 on Feb 2, 2014 22:31:22 GMT -5
Tori reminded me of a 12 year old obsessed, immature <edit>. I wanted to slap the living hell out of her... She acted like a little child, and she also acted like Vincent was her property... And then she storms out in front of everyone because "they treated her bad"... I do not understand how... Catherine even complimented Tori on her dress... Just shows how immature she really is... I was happy when she died... it just pissed me off that she died saving JT! What a waste of seven episodes... the minimal mythology that she brought to the story could have been shown in 1 episode... We got so lost in knowing that Vincent and Tori were in a sexual relationship that I completely forgot about the pictures of them about to kiss.....so did they kiss???
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Post by marikuna7 on Feb 2, 2014 22:32:16 GMT -5
Well how about that! well I like many beasties was left feeling let down and very disappointed ( I was again fooled by the tweets of those claiming this was going to be a MAJOR game changer! NOT!! Ya game changer as in like Tori is died, and Catherine decides she wants to move with Gabe? Vincent on the other hand does not clearly make his thoughts and feelings known to Tori before she dies, about Catherine, infact he continues to put off this impression throughout the episode that he is unresolved and to me Catherine wasnt a first choice..instead she is just somone there when he needs her and the last person to settle for. If I were Catherine, I wouldnt want vincent back either. This episode was more like a big step further away from each other. I didnt feel the same chemistry and the same excitement as I did in S1. They really screwed the pooch and dissected this series. This show and the personalities of the characters are a complete make over. my thoughts are all over the place... and I think this is what upsets us all... that he never made it clear to his redheads that Catherine was his first choice and the one he loved... He just goes back to Catherine when those red heads disappear... it seems like Catherine is not his choice at all... she just happens to be the one available all the time, ready to take him back... I honestly want Catherine with anyone...as long as it is not Vincent... Geez! I am even shipping Catherine/Tess right now
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Post by marikuna7 on Feb 2, 2014 22:33:17 GMT -5
Tori reminded me of a 12 year old obsessed, immature <edit>. I wanted to slap the living hell out of her... She acted like a little child, and she also acted like Vincent was her property... And then she storms out in front of everyone because "they treated her bad"... I do not understand how... Catherine even complimented Tori on her dress... Just shows how immature she really is... I was happy when she died... it just pissed me off that she died saving JT! What a waste of seven episodes... the minimal mythology that she brought to the story could have been shown in 1 episode... We got so lost in knowing that Vincent and Tori were in a sexual relationship that I completely forgot about the pictures of them about to kiss.....so did they kiss??? nope... I do not even think those pictures were from this episode... they did not have to kiss... it was nauseating enough to see them "in a relationship"
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Post by Toziva_NCIS on Feb 2, 2014 22:33:18 GMT -5
Just finished watching it, well, I think it is fine, or even better than epi 11.
I do not feel it is necessary to talk about "beast sex", come on, we are all adults, if it happened, it happened. No matter how bad it is, it is just the way it is in this "morally corrupted" world if you feel it deserves to be called this way. Nothing can be done to undo what they already did.
Like JT said in the end, they are back to where they started and I considered this is a fresh start since this season began, finally the "evil on Vincent's shoulder", Tori is gone. She is not innocent, but not a pure evil either. She just did not belong to Vincent's life or his whole story but still naively thought she could find a way to make things right. Fortunately, she is finally gone. I expect a better start from here.
I understand fans' expectation to see a perfect epic love story that they dreamed of. But hey, no one ever promises to give viewers some "idealistic epic story paradise", did they?
They own the Intelligent Property Right of BATB, they have every right to decide how the story goes, because they created it.
As fans, no matter how important we think we are, we are not making this show, they do and they are not intimidated by some fans to change they story (obviously).
I still choose to watch it, no matter it is sweet or bitter, I choose to swallow it myself.
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Post by sunshine978 on Feb 2, 2014 22:37:40 GMT -5
We got so lost in knowing that Vincent and Tori were in a sexual relationship that I completely forgot about the pictures of them about to kiss.....so did they kiss??? nope... I do not even think those pictures were from this episode... they did not have to kiss... it was nauseating enough to see them "in a relationship" Thank you.....and nauseating indeed! I didn't even watch the episode (and I am NOT going to) and I feel sick!
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Post by marikuna7 on Feb 2, 2014 22:37:44 GMT -5
Oh and by the way.... Was it me, or Vincent was actually crying when Tori died??? After Catherine shot the guy?
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Post by Vincent Keller on Feb 2, 2014 22:41:55 GMT -5
Omg...it's a Smallville season 10 ep! Relationships jumped tall buildings in a single bound! With no development beforehand! Important details glossed over left and right! Relationship pimping like nobody's business! Why have actual development when you can just do and undo things in 2 sentences?? [/sarcasm] Aside from the character contrivances/conveniences, I liked the ep. I didn't love it - it was nowhere as good as last week's, IMO, but I liked it. There was sort of an explanation for the way Vincent's been acting, and there was enough Tess to make me happy. But Omg, for the relationship torture and dragging out of the first 8 eps, everything turned on a dime in this one. I have whiplash! ETA: I'm not happy with Catherine's character and NOT b/c who she does or does not want to be with. It's because she's extremely wishy-washy. She's in denial a lot of the time, trying to talk herself in and out of things (ex: I'm not jealous, yes I am, I'm over it, no I'm not...) and when she finally resolves to do something, especially for the betterment of herself, she changes her mind in one ep's time. For real, just
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Post by sunshine978 on Feb 2, 2014 22:46:21 GMT -5
So it seems that Tori's only purpose was to be Vincent's mistress!! What a complete waste of 7 episodes! WASTE! What else was her purpose?? NOTHING!! let us be fair to them dear ? they said Tori will bring vincat together (even the name(vincat) is hard for me to write it again ! and she did , because if she didn't die the selfish jerk would be keep doing her until he finds another warm body ! and he would never figure out that he belongs with Cat without her telling him that ! You are right, she brought them together by dying and when he and Catherine get back together, it will be because Tori told him he should! This show's writers never cease to amaze me.
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Post by Reyna on Feb 2, 2014 22:48:10 GMT -5
See original post for quote, due to edited content. Well said Tiva! Kudos to you!
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Post by texasscotian on Feb 2, 2014 22:54:59 GMT -5
See original post for quote, due to edited content. Amen.. Hallelujah and pass the biscuits!!! Well put!! You said everything I was thinking!!! when you stop and think about all the bad things that go on in this world.. it's just a form of escape from life's realities for a little while.
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Post by Naná on Feb 2, 2014 22:55:24 GMT -5
I still did not see the episode, but I read the comments and I wonder if Tori said that to Vincent because it is very clear how he feels about cat? maybe I´m very posivetily..lol p.s: whatever happens, I still am with this show
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