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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Jan 31, 2014 8:03:39 GMT -5
Beasties I HAD TO share this pic! IS HILARIOUS! I love it! and I love Eclantantly, she's lovely!! View AttachmentThe best quote is Vincent's! "flawless hair" Gabe's rebuttal would be "get away from Catherine with your mesmerizing dimples....not to mention extremely well-toned body". Sorry, but I couldn't help myself. "Well, yes, Gabe, he's gorgeous and you are not competition for him! Because I don't buy that you are the "super-duper-perfect guy!!!!" " That would be my answer to that rebuttal"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 16:03:49 GMT -5
Beasties I HAD TO share this pic! IS HILARIOUS! I love it! and I love Eclantantly, she's lovely!! The best quote is Vincent's! "flawless hair" Hilarious is an understatement! It is off the charts, like Gabe's hair and Vincent's dimples! Truly sidesplitting! These little moments of sheer joy are very much appreciated among all the moments of deep sorrow. Yes, the two emotions are definitely inseparable when it comes to BatB!
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Post by sunshine978 on Jan 31, 2014 16:05:00 GMT -5
Thank you for the link. Ok, I went to one of those links before (not sure if it was the same link but it looks like the same link) and there were only 7 pics to view (not 14 pics to view) I think at the time, that I had visit the link, and the kissing scene between V and T wasn't in that selection of the 7 pictures. So, if people haven't seen those pictures regarding the kissing scene between V and T, then, how are the viewers supposed to know that they have kissed? We are supposed to assumed that they did based on the remaining shown scenes to the viewers? Then, that makes me not even want to continue watching this series. Because, the epic love between V and C is completely destroyed in my mind. I feel the same way Riv. So much for EPIC love! In my opinion, this is not a story about true love. Not one bit. If they hadn't shown Vincent and Catherine kissing other people, I would continue to support it and tell friends about it, but none of my friends/relatives are interested in watching it anymore because of the love triangles. They think it's pure trash now. I still don't understand why the writers felt they need to add this element (love triangles) to a show called the Beauty and the Beast.
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Post by sunshine978 on Jan 31, 2014 16:16:19 GMT -5
To be honest, based on all the bad decisions Brad Kern made in SEason 2, I wouldn't want a SEason 3. Can you imagine, if Season 3 was guaranteed how far Vincent and Tori's relationship would go in this season 2? They would have certainly shown them kissing (as in the pictures that were released last week that were cut from the episode). And who knows what else. And Catherine and Gabe might have been an item too.
o can you imagine what they would have in store for fans if there was a season 3? How far would they take it this time? They already crossed so many lines in Season 2, so they would most likely cross more lines if given a Season 3. +++++++ Im really sad that there may not be a S3, but if they do bring it back ( :worship:please) I hope they take what made both seasons so great. Now that we have a more public war hero maybe they can bring back some of the procedural elements and dwell less on so much of the past. Im not sure if I would want BK to handle the s3 if he plans on just changing the core appeal of the characters. This episode proved that the banter between the characters and the chemistry between then can be stronger than just a plot line. It was the interplay between the characters that made this great, I dont think most of us are obsessing over the necklace. Also, where are these pictures showing vincent and tori together? I would love to see them. I only remember the kiss during the thanksgiving episode. If someone could post a link
Eyeofthetiger, did you find the link of Vincent and Tori kissing? It's all over this forum now....Let me know if you still haven't found it.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 31, 2014 16:35:28 GMT -5
I think someone else brought up the continuity of the necklace and its power over Beasts. But I have another question:
If Vincent was so overpowered by the necklace when he had it in his possession at the precinct........why is it that Vincent could super-speed out of the embassy bedroom after he grabbed the necklace off the floor??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 17:03:42 GMT -5
^Plot hole much, Suzieq ❤️ Beastie? A simple sheet of what to do and what don't in the show would suffice, but I think they don't know that, Of course, you have to remember that things only appear on the screen when its convenient. i.e. Vincent remembers Gabe attempt of murder, but Cat don't, she-beast can't be even close to Vincent without him losing control in one scene and the other he's perfectly fine with her constant touch, etc, etc, etc...
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Post by sunshine978 on Jan 31, 2014 17:26:03 GMT -5
The way it looks to me, they probably had 2 completely different scenarios - 1) with Vincent and Tori having a relationship because this is the way they wanted it to go initially and if fans liked Tori and 2) VinTori not in a relationship whether it be because of fans outrage over Tori or word of cancellation, in that case, they have to bring VinCat back together. So they shot many different scenes and maybe got some mixed up in the promo, hence Vincent and Tori walking arm in arm. By the way, I almost didn't watch the episode because of that scene Totally agree with multi scenarios & plot options. That sometimes is the whole reason for editing. I also dont think if they walked out hand in hand like they did in the promo we should read too much into it. Many reasons maybe V is still be trying to keep up the cover of the being involved w/ T. I know that V is a good person and I think the anger/desperation fog may be lifting a little like others have said so I think even in that moment is he left arm & arm with T it might have been to provide her some comfort. Tori is also going through a lot now and I think he is just trying to help her. I think the viewers are so angry at the writers for destroying Vincat that we are taking some of that out on Tori. Tori can be a selfish, shallow brat but I dont think she is the she-monster we all make her out to be (unless of course the writers are making her part of the super baddies and then thats a whole difft thing). Obviously she wants V and is jealous of Catherine and trying to antagonize her, but does that make her a horrible person? It makes her a little misguided and crazy like Catherine said in the interrogation room. I guess thats why at sometimes I wish the writers would have chosen a person that could be the link to the mythology without setting up another love triangle. I think the audience should have been and needs to be trusted to believe in drama without another forced love triangle. It could have been any random person that helped V find the jewel. Why did they have to make him need to be possibly romantically linked to the person? The break up and hurt feelings between V & C were believable without the need for T. We had enough betrayal with the memory loss, shooting, etc. It just seemed weak that the writers felt the need to include a possible cheating rebound. Vincent and Tori walking out of the precinct arm in arm in the promo - I do believe, like you said, that it was a charade. I think he's so hurt and angry with CAtherine that he wants her to think he has moved on from her. Remember in "Ancestors" episode when he walked upstairs with that woman and he was looking back at Cat? It seems as though he wants to affect Catherine.
You are right, VinCat have soooooo many issues going on, why have love triangles??!?! This just boggles my mind.
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Post by riv on Jan 31, 2014 18:28:18 GMT -5
I have a question that has been on my mind since the season 1 finale. Concerning the final episode in season 1, has V remembered that he was in recovery of being normal until Cat injected him with the sryum, to save his life, so he can turn back into the beast, to defend himself, when Gabe was in beast mode trying to kill him, just before V was captured? If so, why hasn't this been addressed? How does V feel about Cat injecting him with this, to turn him back into the beast?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 18:43:25 GMT -5
I have a question that has been on my mind since the season 1 finale. Concerning the final episode in season 1, has V remembered that he was in recovery of being normal until Cat injected him with the sryum, to save his life, so he can turn back into the beast, to defend himself, when Gabe was in beast mode trying to kill him, just before V was captured? If so, why hasn't this been addressed? How does V feel about Cat injecting him with this, to turn him back into the beast? First, no one really knows what Vincent remembers or not. Apparently, not even Jay Ryan since this question was made to him and he told the fans to ask the writers. Second, at this point, everything that happened on S1 is pretty much irrelevant to the writers and show runners, IMO. I don't think anything that happened in S1 would ever be touched or addressed.
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Post by riv on Jan 31, 2014 18:50:57 GMT -5
If that is the case, then why even have an amnesia story line? I remember Jay Ryan saying in one of his interviews that he will eventually get his memory back, but to me it still seems foggy, even though, according to BK, he supposedly has his memories back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 18:54:30 GMT -5
If that is the case, then why even have an amnesia story line? I remember Jay Ryan saying in one of his interviews that he will eventually get his memory back, but to me it still seems foggy, even though, according to BK, he supposedly has his memories back. That's the million dollar question. I don't think even Kern knows the answer.
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Post by riv on Feb 1, 2014 21:37:25 GMT -5
but it was a nice touch that they put back in that he could hear cat's heartbeat that touch I liked.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Somebody posted the above comment, and I wanted to comment on it with my question. What heartbeat? Where in this episode did V hear Cat's heartbeat? I don't remember anywhere in this episode where V heard Cat's heartbeat. That hasn't happened since the beginning of season 2. Plus, Vincent had the gem with him and I thought he is without his beastly powers with the gem, so how can he hear Cat's heartbeat if he can't hear her crying out to him with her apology, when she is away from him, and whispering to him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2014 21:43:15 GMT -5
but it was a nice touch that they put back in that he could hear cat's heartbeat that touch I liked. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Somebody posted the above comment, and I wanted to comment on it with my question. What heartbeat? Where in this episode did V hear Cat's heartbeat? I don't remember anywhere in this episode where V heard Cat's heartbeat. That hasn't happened since the beginning of season 2. Plus, Vincent had the gem with him and I thought he is without his beastly powers with the gem, so how can he hear Cat's heartbeat if he can't hear her crying out to him with her apology, when she is away from him, and whispering to him. Right before Catherine, Gabe and Tess came to the boathouse.
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Post by crazyforbatb_has season 3 on Feb 1, 2014 21:46:43 GMT -5
but it was a nice touch that they put back in that he could hear cat's heartbeat that touch I liked. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Somebody posted the above comment, and I wanted to comment on it with my question. What heartbeat? Where in this episode did V hear Cat's heartbeat? I don't remember anywhere in this episode where V heard Cat's heartbeat. That hasn't happened since the beginning of season 2. Plus, Vincent had the gem with him and I thought he is without his beastly powers with the gem, so how can he hear Cat's heartbeat if he can't hear her crying out to him with her apology, when she is away from him, and whispering to him. There have been quite a number of times throughout the season where V has heard C's heartbeat. The first time in this episode was V was laying an ambush for the jewel thieves. T was supposed to grab them when they came in the door but he heard Cat's heartbeat and realised she had come to get the jewel amd he said "Oh no! No Tori wait" trying to stop her because he knew it was Cat who was gonna walk through the door instead of the baddies
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Post by texasscotian on Feb 1, 2014 21:47:55 GMT -5
but it was a nice touch that they put back in that he could hear cat's heartbeat that touch I liked. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Somebody posted the above comment, and I wanted to comment on it with my question. What heartbeat? Where in this episode did V hear Cat's heartbeat? I don't remember anywhere in this episode where V heard Cat's heartbeat. That hasn't happened since the beginning of season 2. Plus, Vincent had the gem with him and I thought he is without his beastly powers with the gem, so how can he hear Cat's heartbeat if he can't hear her crying out to him with her apology, when she is away from him, and whispering to him. It was in the very beginning when Catherine, Tess and Gabe were sent to the boathouse to retrieve the necklace. You can hear the heartbeat sound and by the expression on Vincent's face and his tone of voice, you knew immediately it was Catherine's heartbeat. He even tells Tori to wait.. but alas being as hardheaded as she is, she just doesn't listen, and throws Catherine against the counter (I think that's what it was). Tsk, Tsk, Tsk... I don't think Tori will ever learn.....
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