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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 21:34:17 GMT -5
There is no Catehrine/Gabe kiss, so no worries; but they are clearly establishing a stronger relationship between the two of them and between Vincent/Tori. I hated Tori using the word "together". That was just wrong. There was no Catherine breakdown, and I feel she needed one. Too much happened too fast and there was no time for any character to process anything, especially the viewer. I'm not sure about Catherine's reactions; it just didn't feel right. Lots to process.... but there are no triangles to worry about... YET! Wait......whaaa........NO GABE/CAT KISS?? REALLY?? All that worry for NOTHING!! What am I saying......... OK questions: Did Vincent go to the hospital Twice?? Did JT save Vincent from "dying"? Did anyone else die? Can someone tell what is the thing that Tori discovers.......is it Big?? Do you know if it is important to Vincent and Cat? Vincent only goes to the hospital at the end and this will lead to next weeks appearance on the talk. JT helps him; he doesn't actually save him. The wound is terrible and Cat is rather nonchalant...I did not get that. There isn't one great Vincat scene. Only the "baddies" who are after Tori die. Nothing was clear to me about the mythology. I'll have to watch it again.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 12, 2014 21:35:09 GMT -5
One more thing, nothing is clear as to the mythology. Catherine found a skeleton, but we don't know if it triggered something for her. Tori's dad is involved and more people know that beasts exist, but who do they work for? I still don't get the need for the Vincent/Tori kiss...and that still makes me a little (giant understatement) mad. Please don't tell me there was ANOTHER Tori and Vincent KISS?? So the kiss was between Tori/Vincent and NOT Gabe/Cat?? Was there a KISS at all?? I think she meant the one in Guess Who's Coming To Dinner! LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 21:37:36 GMT -5
Please don't tell me there was ANOTHER Tori and Vincent KISS?? So the kiss was between Tori/Vincent and NOT Gabe/Cat?? Was there a KISS at all?? I think she meant the one in Guess Who's Coming To Dinner! LOL Yes, thanks, Yolie. There is NO kiss in this episode.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 12, 2014 21:44:37 GMT -5
Why does Vincent go in front of the cameras? Does he save Tori? Who does he say "Vincent Keller is Dead"??
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Post by pippin on Jan 12, 2014 21:46:32 GMT -5
There is no Catehrine/Gabe kiss, so no worries; but they are clearly establishing a stronger relationship between the two of them and between Vincent/Tori. I hated Tori using the word "together". That was just wrong. There was no Catherine breakdown, and I feel she needed one. Too much happened too fast and there was no time for any character to process anything, especially the viewer. I'm not sure about Catherine's reactions; it just didn't feel right. Lots to process.... but there are no triangles to worry about... YET! Thank you. I know a couple of us kept questioning why some people here were jumping to the conclusion about Cat / Gabe kissing or saying it had been confirmed when no reviews or tweets from actual people in the know said that. Hopefully people will make clear distinctions between what they are merely speculating about versus what they actually have legitimate confirmation of. God knows there are some people very unhappy about stuff that is actually happening on the show so it would be nice if we didn't have people getting angry and upset over stuff that doesn't even actually happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 21:51:54 GMT -5
Why does Vincent go in front of the cameras? Does he save Tori? Who does he say "Vincent Keller is Dead"?? Yes, as many had speculated, he does save Tori (and Catherine, indirectly) and they all decide that it is time for Vincent Keller to come out of hiding. He says that the Tori, but not meaning that he has lost his humanity, just that according to records, VK is dead.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 12, 2014 22:00:12 GMT -5
Why does Vincent go in front of the cameras? Does he save Tori? Who does he say "Vincent Keller is Dead"?? Yes, as many had speculated, he does save Tori (and Catherine, indirectly) and they all decide that it is time for Vincent Keller to come out of hiding. He says that the Tori, but not meaning that he has lost his humanity, just that according to records, VK is dead. "They all decide".......Does Catherine, JT, Gabe, etc..........WANT Vincent to come out of hiding? Who wanted Vincent to come out of hiding? Why.....with all that they went through? Why would Vincent do that.......for recognition, praise....why? Did Tori push it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 22:10:09 GMT -5
Yes, as many had speculated, he does save Tori (and Catherine, indirectly) and they all decide that it is time for Vincent Keller to come out of hiding. He says that the Tori, but not meaning that he has lost his humanity, just that according to records, VK is dead. "They all decide".......Does Catherine, JT, Gabe, etc..........WANT Vincent to come out of hiding? Who wanted Vincent to come out of hiding? Why.....with all that they went through? Why would Vincent do that.......for recognition, praise....why? Did Tori push it? By all, I meant V, T and C. The question is who is Vincent hiding from now? Does he still need to live hiding? Who is the enemy now? Perhaps now he can have more of a normal life...or course we know that won't happen. He is the one who takes the longest to make the decision to come out of hiding, it's not for recognition or praise, but it will allow him to be in contact with his surviving family members in future episodes.
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Post by icebeastie on Jan 12, 2014 22:15:35 GMT -5
>:DI thought this was the most ridiculously written episode so far! Just proved absolutely that the only purpose for Tori to be a red-headed female and that destructive (to the fandom) kiss in Guess Who's Coming to Dinner was just to inflame we fans. There was no need for her character to be female to continue this ludicrous mythology plot promise! It seemed to me that the writers said "OK...that's enough of this downward spiral....now...Alakazam!!! Poof...all better!" Ridiculous!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 12, 2014 22:21:26 GMT -5
Loca I was right about a few things..NO?? YEAH I was! LOL About Gabe and about the connection to JT and Vincent..I see where some might get upset from this episode..and I don't truly know how they aregoing to fix VinCat after this.
All in ALL I love this episode! I was right TOri was there too in the place with VIncent!
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jan 12, 2014 22:23:22 GMT -5
Loca I was right about a few things..NO?? YEAH I was! LOL About Gabe and about the connection to JT and Vincent..I see where some might get upset from this episode..and I don't truly know how they aregoing to fix VinCat after this. O.K.....why would people be upset? No G/C kiss; no V/T kiss. Harsh words between Vincent and Catherine? It doesn't seem as if there were the BIG revelations that everyone thought there would be. What is the connection between JT and Vincent?
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 12, 2014 22:24:11 GMT -5
>:DI thought this was the most ridiculously written episode so far! Just proved absolutely that the only purpose for Tori to be a red-headed female and that destructive (to the fandom) kiss in Guess Who's Coming to Dinner was just to inflame we fans. There was no need for her character to be female to continue this ludicrous mythology plot promise! It seemed to me that the writers said "OK...that's enough of this downward spiral....now...Alakazam!!! Poof...all better!" Ridiculous! I have to disagree with you here..I said instigator and I was right and there's more them meets the eye, they aren't going to show you the whole picture in one episode sorry
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jan 12, 2014 22:25:07 GMT -5
Loca I was right about a few things..NO?? YEAH I was! LOL About Gabe and about the connection to JT and Vincent..I see where some might get upset from this episode..and I don't truly know how they aregoing to fix VinCat after this. O.K.....why would people be upset? No G/C kiss; no V/T kiss. Harsh words between Vincent and Catherine? It doesn't seem as if there were the BIG revelations that everyone thought there would be. What is the connection between JT and Vincent? Do you really want to know?? Cause then I would be giving a lot away
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jan 12, 2014 22:26:08 GMT -5
O.K.....why would people be upset? No G/C kiss; no V/T kiss. Harsh words between Vincent and Catherine? It doesn't seem as if there were the BIG revelations that everyone thought there would be. What is the connection between JT and Vincent? Do you really want to know?? Cause then I would be giving a lot away Yep...I do. If you think it is too much, PM me. Right now, it seems as if this epi was nothing like it was built up to be?
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Post by texasscotian on Jan 12, 2014 22:32:18 GMT -5
O.K.....why would people be upset? No G/C kiss; no V/T kiss. Harsh words between Vincent and Catherine? It doesn't seem as if there were the BIG revelations that everyone thought there would be. What is the connection between JT and Vincent? Do you really want to know?? Cause then I would be giving a lot away Not to give anything away, but didn't someone actually more or less guess what the connection is between JT and Vincent in the Spoilers thread not too long ago? I didn't think it was too big of a doozy, but that's because I just can't help myself and HAVE to read the spoilers thread!! Overall, I thought this was a pretty interesting episode and I think I can see why Lillith would think the fandom would be divided ( well to a certain extent anyway). For a moment there however, I thought Gabe and Catherine might kiss, but I think it's probably only me.
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