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Post by ragulr25 on Nov 24, 2013 21:20:57 GMT -5
Cat has been more than generous in giving in this relationship. Vincent is really going to have to stand up to the plate and beg to be back in Catherine's life again. That is what I am most looking forward to in the next arc. The grovelling. i m sorry but i standby vincents decision to kill cuz bio dad in jail not gonna take him long for him to escape and continue his so called mission or kill vincent. he has too many resources to keep him in jail. i think vin should not apologise fo trying to kill bio dad. it was a right move
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Nov 24, 2013 21:30:36 GMT -5
Cat has been more than generous in giving in this relationship. Vincent is really going to have to stand up to the plate and beg to be back in Catherine's life again. That is what I am most looking forward to in the next arc. The grovelling. i m sorry but i standby vincents decision to kill cuz bio dad in jail not gonna take him long for him to escape and continue his so called mission or kill vincent. he has too many resources to keep him in jail. i think vin should not apologise fo trying to kill bio dad. it was a right move I'm still kind of confused as to what/why bio Daddy was involved with Muirfield/Beasts any way? Was it through Vanessa? Is that why he wants all Beasts dead? I thought he was working WITH Muirfield as the FBI hired Muirfield for the project to begin with, right? Anyway...I don't blame Vincent for wanting to kill him either. It's just that Catherine wants Vincent to keep his human side and "do the right thing" (jail for bio Daddy, not death) rather than just letting his "Beast" and violence take over. Is Gabe honorable or did it appear he has a hidden agenda? Did Catherine really look at him in a different light? Does it seem they are going to "go there" with Gabe and Catherine? Did it seem that Vincent was strictly a mentor to Tori or did it seem like they are going to "go there" with the two of them?
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Post by icebeastie on Nov 24, 2013 21:42:25 GMT -5
Sad to say I really think they will 'go there' with both couples....Vincent is so totally FUBAR right now...and Tori is really, really strongly pulling on his Beast. This is the most conflicted/struggle I have seen from him this season! Everyone has been telling me he is...but this is the first I've really seen.... And Catherine turning to Gabe for comfort...yes...they will build on this story IMO...
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Post by Toziva_NCIS on Nov 24, 2013 21:48:01 GMT -5
THis epi is fantastic!!! I love it, so many revealing and honest conversations in the lines, and the incredible acting of both KK and JR!!
I love it!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2013 21:51:23 GMT -5
I will watch the episode again tomorrow night on the CW; then I'll feel better prepared to comment more thoroughly. The one thing that really struck me was the one similarity between episode 9 last season and this episode; in both, Cat is unconscious in a car. In season 1, even though he had "beasted out" to save her, he was so gentle and caring and worried about her safety. Here, after the car crashed, which he caused, and she was unconscious, he didn't even check on her before attacking agent Reynolds. I feel that this further emphasizes that Vincent's humanity is in jeopardy; that whatever they did to him those three months has had a profound effect on his character, that the road ahead will be long and hard. He also feels that Catherine has given up on him; what will he hold on to now? All he has is Tori, who is enticing him to embrace the beast within.
Yes, I really don't get the need for the kiss...unless the worst is yet to come, however, there certainly was no sexual attraction; it is a little odd.
Also, JT and Tess were very cute!
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Post by Catherine Chandler on Nov 24, 2013 22:16:34 GMT -5
I watched it! OMG why KK cries soooo good? That woman stole the episode haha. I love it! I want to watch it again so Kristin can make me cry again! Bravo! I love her scenes with Bio dad! She was so bad ass. And JT and Tess scenes . I love those 2!
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Nov 24, 2013 22:22:52 GMT -5
Done! watched it too! wow... real roller coaster... my heart was going out of my chest last 10 minutes!! Just to clarify: NON BEAST ON BEAST SEX! But Tori is the kind of girl you wouldn't like your daughter or son to hang up with ! I need to rewatch but it was a great episode. Many, many things happening at very fast pace! The strong Catherine came back and they finally open the potential "issue" between her and Gabe... arggh! These will be a very long 6 weeks... I need a promo... Will not post anything else I don't want to spoil too much!
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 24, 2013 22:31:40 GMT -5
ok - need to watch episode again before i comment but a few things: 1) if i was vincent i would definitely want to kill reynolds, which hUman (let alone beast) would not want to do that after he destroyed hsiwhole life, i can understand his anger and desire to kill him completely 2) i felt so sad when cat shot vincent and the way he looked at her after wards - i can understand why she did it but it is so sad. it basically means that they will both have to earn it if you know what i mean to get into each other''s lives again, vincent will also feel betrayed by catherine 3) tori annoyed the hell out of me, she was a proper beast lol - the reason she annoyed me was cause she had such an influence over vincent and all she said was to drive him to the dark side 4) interestingly, i dont think we got an answer to the question man or beast, i dont think we did anyway - things are implied but no answer as such which i think it is good
now we have to wait for 6 weeks, sucks big time!
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Nov 24, 2013 22:32:44 GMT -5
i m sorry but i standby vincents decision to kill cuz bio dad in jail not gonna take him long for him to escape and continue his so called mission or kill vincent. he has too many resources to keep him in jail. i think vin should not apologise fo trying to kill bio dad. it was a right move I'm still kind of confused as to what/why bio Daddy was involved with Muirfield/Beasts any way? Was it through Vanessa? Is that why he wants all Beasts dead? I thought he was working WITH Muirfield as the FBI hired Muirfield for the project to begin with, right? Anyway...I don't blame Vincent for wanting to kill him either. It's just that Catherine wants Vincent to keep his human side and "do the right thing" (jail for bio Daddy, not death) rather than just letting his "Beast" and violence take over. Is Gabe honorable or did it appear he has a hidden agenda? Did Catherine really look at him in a different light? Does it seem they are going to "go there" with Gabe and Catherine? Did it seem that Vincent was strictly a mentor to Tori or did it seem like they are going to "go there" with the two of them? Reynolds says that by killing beasts he was trying to clean the mess he participated to create in a first place with Muirfield. IMO, it looks more that Gabe and Cat will "go there" than Vincent and Tori. In this ep it look more like Vincent is her mentor but she has a really strong influence on him and, as opposite to Catherine, tries to convince him to embrace his beast. I'm really confused about Gabe's hidden agenda... in this ep he was the perfect charming prince!
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 24, 2013 22:33:14 GMT -5
Done! watched it too! wow... real roller coaster... my heart was going out of my chest last 10 minutes!! Just to clarify: NON BEAST ON BEAST SEX! But Tori is the kind of girl you wouldn't like your daughter or son to hang up with ! I need to rewatch but it was a great episode. Many, many things happening at very fast pace! The strong Catherine came back and they finally open the potential "issue" between her and Gabe... arggh! These will be a very long 6 weeks... I need a promo... Will not post anything else I don't want to spoil too much! lol u dont want to spoil too much but the whole episode has been descibed above scene by scene, so please feel free to spoilif u want
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Post by marikuna7 on Nov 24, 2013 22:34:18 GMT -5
I lover this episode.... KK is amazing.... She put so much emotion, I cried with her... And the actor who plays Reynolds is great too.. This whole episode was amazing... Heart breaking... And I love Sendhil.. Can't believe we have to wait for six weeks
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Nov 24, 2013 22:37:41 GMT -5
maybe his hidden agenda was just to woo (quoting J.T.) catherine that is lame lol, it means he is no beast or anythign, he is a really nice guy with feeling for catherine so again, i can see her being tempted though it will clearly not be cause of love, iti s clear she sees him as a friend really but u know when u are in distress anything is possible, we shall see though i do not think she will do anything with him ~~~~~~~~ oh by the way, do we get next episodes clip tomorrow? have a feeling we may not cause of the hiatus may just leave us hanging there
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Nov 24, 2013 22:40:13 GMT -5
Done! watched it too! wow... real roller coaster... my heart was going out of my chest last 10 minutes!! Just to clarify: NON BEAST ON BEAST SEX! But Tori is the kind of girl you wouldn't like your daughter or son to hang up with ! I need to rewatch but it was a great episode. Many, many things happening at very fast pace! The strong Catherine came back and they finally open the potential "issue" between her and Gabe... arggh! These will be a very long 6 weeks... I need a promo... Will not post anything else I don't want to spoil too much! lol u dont want to spoil too much but the whole episode has been descibed above scene by scene, so please feel free to spoilif u want LOL! u r right! I noticed later! oh by the way, do we get next episodes clip tomorrow? have a feeling we may not cause of the hiatus may just leave us hanging there REALLY? No, no no!!! there has to be a promo!!! Pleeease
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Nov 24, 2013 22:43:21 GMT -5
I'm still kind of confused as to what/why bio Daddy was involved with Muirfield/Beasts any way? Was it through Vanessa? Is that why he wants all Beasts dead? I thought he was working WITH Muirfield as the FBI hired Muirfield for the project to begin with, right? Anyway...I don't blame Vincent for wanting to kill him either. It's just that Catherine wants Vincent to keep his human side and "do the right thing" (jail for bio Daddy, not death) rather than just letting his "Beast" and violence take over. Is Gabe honorable or did it appear he has a hidden agenda? Did Catherine really look at him in a different light? Does it seem they are going to "go there" with Gabe and Catherine? Did it seem that Vincent was strictly a mentor to Tori or did it seem like they are going to "go there" with the two of them? Reynolds says that by killing beasts he was trying to clean the mess he participated to create in a first place with Muirfield. IMO, it looks more that Gabe and Cat will "go there" than Vincent and Tori. In this ep it look more like Vincent is her mentor but she has a really strong influence on him and, as opposite to Catherine, tries to convince him to embrace his beast. I'm really confused about Gabe's hidden agenda... in this ep he was the perfect charming prince! Thanks for "filling me in"! So...Gabe's turning in to Prince Charming, eh? Hmmmmmm........
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Post by Savana_ Dying for season3! on Nov 24, 2013 22:44:43 GMT -5
Reynolds says that by killing beasts he was trying to clean the mess he participated to create in a first place with Muirfield. IMO, it looks more that Gabe and Cat will "go there" than Vincent and Tori. In this ep it look more like Vincent is her mentor but she has a really strong influence on him and, as opposite to Catherine, tries to convince him to embrace his beast. I'm really confused about Gabe's hidden agenda... in this ep he was the perfect charming prince! Thanks for "filling me in"! So...Gabe's turning in to Prince Charming, eh? Hmmmmmm........
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