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Post by meems on Jul 25, 2013 13:11:54 GMT -5
Hi Beasties,
I am new to this board but not a new Beastie. I have watched the finale twice now (probably will watch it one more time before the new season for refreshing and further analyzing) but overall there were good things and bad things with this episode. First off, love the first scenese with Vincat. Going out and about...talking about their future but that came crumbling down abrubtly as we all knew it would.
Cutting to the chase because so many of you have already described my same sentiments about certain things, the ending was the worst part and did not fit the shows undying Love Story MO with Vincat. It left me asking (Ok maybe I was blurting these questions out to my TV) why didn't Cat fight harder? Pick up her gun? Scream/show more enragement and emotion? AFter the "deleted" or alternate end scene started floating around, I was asking WHY DID THEY CUT SO MANY LITTLE IMPORTANT THINGS???
Now that I have seen all interview clips from J, KK and producers from SDCC13, I have renewed hope and excitement with the teasers and modifications they were talking about.
Can't wait till S2!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 25, 2013 13:34:54 GMT -5
^ Welcome to the forum meems! Glad you decided to post! We share the same frustration you do and I too believe season 2 will be better then season 1. Feel free to continue posting
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Post by meems on Jul 25, 2013 14:30:00 GMT -5
Thanks ! I will have no choice to post being that I am OBSESSED with the show :}
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Post by curly on Jul 25, 2013 20:51:32 GMT -5
Lo and behold the 1st time I tune into a rerun this summer and it is my least favorite. The finale!!!!Ugh!!!!. I have been on a self imposed BATB hiatus. This is the 1st time I have rewatched it since it aired too. Though I have been doing other stuff at the same time I think I may have picked up on a few things. I'll have to pick your brain and memory later Yolie.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 25, 2013 21:20:21 GMT -5
Lo and behold the 1st time I tune into a rerun this summer and it is my least favorite. The finale!!!!Ugh!!!!. I have been on a self imposed BATB hiatus. This is the 1st time I have rewatched it since it aired too. Though I have been doing other stuff at the same time I think I may have picked up on a few things. I'll have to pick your brain and memory later Yolie. Pick my brain all you want LOL I'm up for the challenge I just saw the rerun too LOL The things I do for BATB!
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jul 25, 2013 22:28:42 GMT -5
^ I seriously need inspiration from you guys to re-watch this episode. I just cannot bring myself to do it. Can anyone remind me of a good scene from NTB; one that you like to see over and over again? For the life of me, when I thought about turning it on, I just couldn't do it; I get this overwhelming feeling of dread and disappointment -- LOL!!! Guess to me NTB is like "On Thin Ice" for others!
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 25, 2013 22:39:34 GMT -5
^ I seriously need inspiration from you guys to re-watch this episode. I just cannot bring myself to do it. Can anyone remind me of a good scene from NTB; one that you like to see over and over again? For the life of me, when I thought about turning it on, I just couldn't do it; I get this overwhelming feeling of dread and disappointment -- LOL!!! Guess to me NTB is like "On Thin Ice" for others! ^ YUP! On Thin Ice for me! LOL SO I feel your pain! I was sort of distracted for a minute with a certain photo LOL <--Know what I mean?? I was doing the private and and lost my thought
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Post by lilbit-XO-VinCat on Jul 25, 2013 22:44:26 GMT -5
^ YUP...I know EXACTLY what you mean. I am still !
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Post by meems on Jul 26, 2013 8:03:30 GMT -5
Guys I have watched all the episodes at least twice each so pick my brain as well! I can't help it but wanted to breakdown and analyze everything. I went back first to remememeber and keep tabs of things that were left open like Alex on the bus with that MF agent. I wanted to be able to remember those things in case they came back and I asking what is this..etc.
NTB, yes was not best episode but I fast forward thru parts. I'm watching more of VinCat scenes if anything. (I'm a hopeless romantic and they just have awesome chemistry).
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Post by curly on Jul 26, 2013 11:27:30 GMT -5
Ok Yolie when JT is talking with Vincent on the phone he says "it is his job" to look out after Vincent especially since he lacked his abilities. It may be a stretch but I feel like at least in hindsight there maybe something to that that we are not in the know of yet and maybe not even Vincent? any thoughts??? Also when Vincent is talking with Cat in the car after she left the hospital he wonders why Muirfield would be after her daddy when she speculates it was them. He suggests that it was possible that Muirfield could have been keeping tabs on him like they did her mom. He didn't seem to know or react to the idea of her finding out that it is not actually her dad in fact in the past he stated that he would sit by and let her find out details of her mom even if it included her hanging around with Gabe. Why would he encourage this or help spec on fake Daddy if he knew the details of her actual family history or bio dad? Why not just tell her? I think there is only a few possible scenarios either he is a big fat liar this whole time and that is their (Vincat) ending or he only knows that 1 or both of her parents are not biologically hers but not who they actually are or there is something else that" she can never know" about her parents possibly meaning Vanessa and fake daddy chandler? I think the real question is - Is Vincent a player or a victim???
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 26, 2013 14:07:51 GMT -5
^ Oh curly I love your analyzing ..reminds me of me LOL..I have so much to say (does it surprise you? ) That I will reply to this message when I get on my computer...I'm currently attending to grand daughters and will be on shortly A lot of folks gonna think I'm crazy with my speculations but I've had time to process things better.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jul 26, 2013 15:07:45 GMT -5
Ok Yolie when JT is talking with Vincent on the phone he says "it is his job" to look out after Vincent especially since he lacked his abilities. It may be a stretch but I feel like at least in hindsight there maybe something to that that we are not in the know of yet and maybe not even Vincent? any thoughts??? I've always said that JT was shady and was always too into protecting Vincent and him never really being in any danger..Why wasn't JT ever discovered to be the one helping Vincent? I believe that JT has been Vincent's 'handler' ..The prson keeping him in check for all those years. Now a handler working for who? It could be that he was apporached by Vanessa or by Thomas..I don't think JT is working for M persay but that is also a possibility. All I know is that JT jas always been in the right place at the right time and has never been in any real danger from M ever! That sets a red frag for me! Also when Vincent is talking with Cat in the car after she left the hospital he wonders why Muirfield would be after her daddy when she speculates it was them. He suggests that it was possible that Muirfield could have been keeping tabs on him like they did her mom. He didn't seem to know or react to the idea of her finding out that it is not actually her dad in fact in the past he stated that he would sit by and let her find out details of her mom even if it included her hanging around with Gabe. Why would he encourage this or help spec on fake Daddy if he knew the details of her actual family history or bio dad? Why not just tell her? I think there is only a few possible scenarios either he is a big fat liar this whole time and that is their (Vincat) ending or he only knows that 1 or both of her parents are not biologically hers but not who they actually are or there is something else that" she can never know" about her parents possibly meaning Vanessa and fake daddy chandler? I think the real question is - Is Vincent a player or a victim??? I think Vincent's *knowing about her parent<edited> has to do with the fact that they worked for M......I think Vincent will find out once he has been captured that bio dad is the man who captured him. I truly believe that if the writers write that Vincent knew all alog about the fact that her father wasn't her father then that would taint his image worse then the *Alex* arc basically cause after such a lie we as the viewers and Catherine wouldn't believe anything coming out of Vincent's mouth thus losing all trust in HIM. About Never Turn Back..Now the title fits in even better then what we first thought..Think about it? When we began speculating about it we said that *maybe* Vincent would be turned back into a beast and wouldn't be able to turn back to human..Remember how I said that? Well I believe they will achieve that in S2 without even making Vincent physically looking like a beast... What the writers will do is bring Vincent back changed*within* himself..a bigger threat..fierce beast and less human...at least that is how he will see himself..Sort of *the beast inside* seeping outward. I think this is genious cause it doesn't take away the handsome Mr.Ryan and we see Jay in all his glory but it helps seperate Vincent from Catherine by bring out VIncent's BEAST. Vincent is pondering whether he is more human or more beast..He's afraid to be with Catherine ...He feels that he's no longer human enough to be with her..See the pattern?? I truly think it's great..The best angst basically cause we will see and feel his turmoil of wantng to be with this woman..the woman he *love<edited> and having his fears hold him back...ANGST 1000% ..Just like season one beginning episodes we'll see them gratually lose the ablility to stay away..And when they come back...it will be like a magnet..Will be hard to pull them apart! I'm gonna repost this in the specualtion and spoilers thread too..Cause I think it deserves others to read it too! Curly what ya think??
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Post by pippin on Aug 3, 2015 9:23:07 GMT -5
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Post by BeastieBoy on Aug 3, 2015 13:51:34 GMT -5
Shouldn't this be in the 1x22 "Never Turn Back" thread?
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Post by pippin on Aug 3, 2015 14:23:32 GMT -5
Shouldn't this be in the 1x22 "Never Turn Back" thread? Yes, thank you. LOL but it was deja vu afterall. Man that thread was buried. I remember how disappointed many people were after this episode aired.
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