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Post by mocha83 on Jun 15, 2015 13:51:57 GMT -5
Hi guys, *wave*... One thing that stood out was Tess/JT that romance is so dead. I just think now would be the best time to abort that ship and keep them as friends. Its just not happening. lol be back later for further analysis. Tess and JT both need love, its just not gonna be each other. But i enjoyed them in this episode though. haha
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Post by rose on Jun 15, 2015 13:54:56 GMT -5
I liked this episode. It was not great but good. I didn't exactly see it as waste of episode because the way I looked at it it laid the foundation for what I think are going to be more fast paced episodes going forward. We now know that Tess is going to be vying for the Captain post. We now know that nobody really knows the full extent of the sirum that was used to cure JT and that JT may start to have side effects. Heather coming back to New York and her and a Vincent needing to find their own balance in their relationship. With regard to moving in together, no matter how much they love each other it is a big adjustment especially to someone who is used to living on their own for a long time. Its one thing to have someone visit and spend time together and another for someone to move in permanently and start rearranging things. As someone who has lived on my own and having things the way I want in my own time and full control over the remote and everything else I can relate. Now that agent Thomas is dead I think it is going to be very interesting because there is not going to be anyone to hold Vincat's hand in this and they are going to be thrown in the deep end.
I think Tess and JT are comfortable with each other and have a kind of a relationship that many people in this world have. Not the intense off the charts type of relationship that Vincat have and it seemed to me that they are getting better together compared to the first time they kissed in season 2. Then I was not sure that they could work.
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Post by mocha83 on Jun 15, 2015 14:05:09 GMT -5
Yeah that serum is making me mad.. I'm sure that it wasn't FDA approved or cleared of having any negative side effects or testing on any other human being (?)..I can't remember ...But we all know its coming, the drama continues. lol
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Post by Laura on Jun 15, 2015 14:05:42 GMT -5
Hi guys, *wave<edited> ... One thing that stood out was Tess/JT that romance is so dead. I just think now would be the best time to abort that ship and keep them as friends. Its just not happening. lol be back later for further analysis. Tess and JT both need love, its just not gonna be each other. But i enjoyed them in this episode though. haha When the idea was brought up, I was like NO! Please no! Then I kinda warmed up to them, a bit And now I'm back to my initail feeling - can't feel any chemistry there. They are amazing as friends, but I don't see anything romantic between them. Still, love JT and love Tess, and really don't mind them together. But I wish the writers had brought in other love interests for them I think the main problem is that they think anyone close to our Fab4 needs to be chosen from the inner circle of the characters. Like Gabe, they said, was the only/best choice because he knew about beasts and such. I think they treated JTnT with the same thing in mind, although a very different story line than Gabe/Cat, in terms of how Beasties feel about them. Anyway, I'm not complaining or anything. Just my two cents
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Post by mocha83 on Jun 15, 2015 14:24:35 GMT -5
If we do get surprised and they "break up" lol, I hope it won't be because of cheating. --Or would they? smh... Its just a bad idea and ya just can't fit a square peg in a round hole; just don't do it. hahaha
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Post by raniamahd on Jun 15, 2015 14:48:04 GMT -5
Rania, Your comments had me howling! Sadly, THAT IS Cat and Tess' thing that neither must be proud of now, having slept with someone that was their boss (although technically, at least Gabe was actually gone from the position when they got together). ACK, EWW--don't want to EVER think about the "G" word again!!!! Still REPRESSING the BAD memories!!! And poor Heather. We knew the fiancé of hers would never be around, so I figured he had to be out the door. Does that mean Heather is moving back from Miami or just supposedly still flying back and forth to NY? Sorry it wasn't my intention to bring up bad painful memories ( believe me its still so painful for me too ) it was kind of unavoidable due to the scene with Tess and her brother and his comment ! we have a say i don't know if i can translate it in way that give you the right meaning for it ( mention of one thing is an inevitable mention of the other thing relate to it ) i know you didn't watch it yet but believe it or not it was Tess's brother comment ! that she isn't qualified for the position of the precinct Captain because she slept with her boss ! so rude if you ask me and she shouldn't let anyone talk to her like that even if its her big brother --- anyway a side from joking ( joking about bad things is better than crying about it imo because they keep bring up the bad things from last seasons whether we like it or not ! Gabe was mention 3 time last episode ! ) the choices both Cat and Tess made in their personal life even the wrong and unprofessional choices don't change the fact that they are very good in their work and very qualified too --- btw what happened to their funny Captain ? as for Heather they didn't say if she moving back permanently , she just told Cat that she is staying with a friend ( i don't recall her friend name )
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Post by ebeline on Jun 15, 2015 15:00:31 GMT -5
What I'm getting here is a little bit of a knee-jerk reaction. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but it saddens me to hear that after episode 1 we are going completely in the right direction and then, after one more episode, the train is off the track and careering over a cliff. Let's get a little perspective here. Episode 1 had lots af lovely Vincat moments and the proposal scene was just about perfect in my opinion. But there were moments in the episode where Vincent and Catherine were far from seeing eye-to-eye and the proposal came along quite quickly despite these moments, because when it boils down to it Vincent realised that despite everything, he loved Cat with all his heart and (as he said) although love is not the only reason they are together (destiny being the other main reason) without that love, he would be 'lost' to his beast side. Therefore, it's not surprising that Vincent and Catherine still have issues to resolve. Vincent's reactions at the start of the episode, his primal issues, are I feel down to his insecurity still. Why would a woman as lovely as Catherine want to marry someone with his issues, so when he begins to beast out, he is embarrassed about it and tries to hide it from her. Despite her telling him how much she loves him, he is still scared of losing her. This is his insecurity and when he is insecure, he worries and when he's worried, he beasts out which makes him more insecure. It's a viscious circle only broken at the end of the episode by Catherine words. At the start, she is very territorial. Although Vincent has probably spent many nights at her apartment over the last few months, it's still her space and she doesn't seem all that happy at accommodating his 'stuff'. The scene at the end is really nice because she realises the effect this has had on him and she makes it clear to him that she is putting some of her stuff into storage to accommodate him. This may seem like petty, relationship stuff but I think the writers are using the lamp and the flat-screen tv as a metaphor for their relationship. Love me, love my ugly lamp and love the fact that I turn into a terrifying beast when I get angry or upset. I don't think we will be getting into BOTW territory again although the first 2 episodes have featured 2 experiments. I thought the experiment in the second episode was better fleshed-out and you felt more empathy for him than the Wall Street trader last week. He thought the serum he received was a treatment/cure for his brain tumour. He just wanted to live. I think his introduction has given Vincent and Catherine a snippet of information about where the serum may have come from, a trail for them to follow. This is after alll the point of the Season, to find out who is conducting the experiments and why. Also to see how Vincent and Catherine deal with the situation and the threats as they surface. I don't think Cat will be talking Vincent down every time. I predict that part of his character developement will be that he has to manage to do this himself and it will not surprise me if, at some stage, Cat is hurt by one of these experiments and Vincent has to hunt them down alone and control his emotions long enough to bring them in alive. I also liked the little bit of humour injected into the episode. It's nice to see Vincent and Heather interacting and I thought the fact that Vincent was keeping her secret about the break-up from Cat was like a little bonding moment. Clearly Heather was happy to tell Vincent about it because she knew he would not be judgemental but didn't want Cat to know straight away. Sisters can be competitive. The humour did not take up the whole episode, which was not like a st-com. But it was like a little bit of light before the dark. The episode ended on a dark note, afterall with the death of Agent Thomas. Now Cat and Vincent are on their own as far as the 'conspiracy' is concerned. Yes, yes, yes Have you read my thoughts.! LOL
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Post by ebeline on Jun 15, 2015 15:42:20 GMT -5
As I said it before, I like this ep it is not great but it is well. I think in this ep VinCat get to the next level. For someone who has lived alone for a long time it is an adjustment to move in together. It is absolutley normal to have issues to stake his territory. Especially if one takes into the house of the other. You get afraid of losing yourself and geht afraid of the commitment. Excactly this happens to VinCat. Cat tries to control the situation likeTess said and V get afraid of himself. For me in this ep V is highly similar to V S 1. Throughout the ep but especially in the First scene he has the same behavior as in AMP. I hear some of you screaming but honestly it really is for me. If you remember it, as Cat come in the warehouse after the kiss, to Hang out with V and he is afraid to beast out and hurt her. What did he do, he use excuses to get quickly away from her. Excact the same here in this ep but the lavel has changed. He has some fear of commitment and that made him fight or flight mode. He has not second thoughts about VinCat and he swear to Cat that he love her. This makes ihm beast out but he don't want to hurt her and he is afraid that he scared Cat so that she will run away. Like he said: you still have time to run away we're only engaged..... He is so insecure of himself and that Cat really wants him- all of him. After they talk to eachother and Cat admits that thecommitment stuff scared her too they can focus on her love. The one thing that let V be himself. Like in AMP. Even the convo with JT is running in a similar direction. So the main issue of V is to hurt Cat and that she would leave him. Finally they find out that they can do anything if they Talk about it and grow together as a couple.
And yes, Jay overact in the First scene but he did it on the purpose to Cover up his fear and issues. You see same theme another level. Tess and JT have no chemistry for me, we will see how they will act with eachother. The shower scene was nice. You can see what V has in mind when JT said be the man she loves not the beast you fear. He thinks Cat is under the shower and he go in the banana mode. LOL
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Post by pippin on Jun 15, 2015 17:10:59 GMT -5
what i'd like to see going forward 1) serious/mature and honest conversations - higher character maturity levels 2) no more comedy of a similar type - reserve that for j.t. and tess or something 3) character development - a season 3 journey - the ability to fully relate to both characters and individual growth 4) many trials and tribulations - preferably not involving china vases and lcd screens 5) Real relationship issues - it is clear they have a long way to go ...which i felt we had overcome by the end of season 2. 6) no more cases of the week with little relevance - make it more connected please - link the individual cases with their personal development 7) real danger which we have not at all seen so far 8) a big external threat coming in not too late in the season 9) beautiful vincat moments 10 consistency and a show which knows what it is and has no identity crisis - i thought we were in the right direction, but really not thinking that now 11) less repetition both in writing and storylines - something new 12) more independent thinking - vincent should not be dependent on catherine to retain his humanity - they need to wand and need each other of course but they should be strong individually - hadnt we used seeason 2 as a way for them to"grow as individual" so that they can then be stronger together - lol deja vu 13) passion and fire i am sure i can think of many more but need to cook dinner for the kids So basically a different show then? LOL After two full seasons, the show still has some of the same problems as season 1 and I don't expect much to change.
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Jun 15, 2015 18:20:10 GMT -5
I think we tend to forget just what lives Vincent and Catherine had BEFORE the show ever started. Vincent spent 10 years in a warehouse with no one but JT. Basically, Vincent had chess, video games, lab stuff, and television. And the television was his only real link to the outside world and the passage of time. Vincent would always desperately need to get out into the world, but would have to huddle against a wall when people passed, unable to get involved and just watch life pass him by. Emotionally-stunted all the way.
And Catherine made her work her priority to the exclusion of everything else in her life. She had her work. Then she came home. Those were the only REAL SPACES that she was comfortable in. (I mean, even WITH VINCENT MISSING, she couldn't do anything else but concentrate on his case AND paint her apartment from top to bottom. Which in retrospect, SAYS something about her. She couldn't control ANYTHING else but her own APARTMENT.) Because she couldn't ever really commit, didn't really want to commit, or just didn't have the time or energy to put into a relationship, WE KNOW (especially from her words in "Insatiable") that she never had any relationship that every went anywhere beyond the physical. And per her words to Vincent, the guys never really stayed around long enough after it got physical. And that was more because Cat couldn't or wouldn't put the time or any piece of her emotionally-stunted self into the relationship.
So when you think about it, you can see how this AMAZING love can be there while still dealing with people that actually know little about the day-to-day interactions with the other person. They were always on missions or in hiding before, with people closing in on them. Normal dates just never really DID get a chance to happen. (And their STUFF and their individual SPACE was all that was there for them through it all.)
And as much as Season 2 damaged us the viewers, it damaged them even more, bringing up old insecurities as well as creating new securities.
So when you think about it, ALL these two ever had was 1) a mission or calling or having to hide and 2) their stuff, which sure lasted longer than anything else around them. It was the one thing they could control. And although this EPIC LOVE is between them, their emotional growth was stunted WAY back when, and they certainly can't look to the OTHER person to be the mature emotional one because they are BOTH in the same situation. With the same insecurities. And each feels unworthy of love STILL.
You SAW in 301 just how much Catherine figured she had damaged the relationship with Vincent permanently, just in TALKING with the agents. She really didn't think Vincent would be able to get past it. Quite frankly, after all that they had been through, the last thing she expected was that proposal. She just didn't think Vincent was in the place (and based on her actions/speech at the bridal shop, neither was she). So this is two people BLINDLY PANICKING in moving forward. Vincent can't figure out why Cat would say yes, knowing that beast-issues may mean she IS always having the burden of talking him down from the ledge. So why would she want to stay? And for Catherine, why would the doctor with the bright future want her, of all people, who is bound to track down these people that were the same type that brought about the death of her parents.
So Vincent and Catherine now KNOW for sure what they want. They WANT, more than anything, to be together. BUT they can't trust it. Their individual insecurities and having been so traumatized and emotionally-stunted, relationship-wise, that they have NO idea how to proceed.
And WHO can guide them? Tess clearly CAN'T even depend on her brother, who is an obviously over-competitive moron with the emotional depth of a vegetable. And as Vegetable brother must have brought up, Tess hasn't made great relationship choices herself. And JT was in the same situation as Vincent--we know from "Saturn Returns" that he basically ended up losing every relationship choice he had to hide Vincent's secret and also didn't think he was worthy due to all that baggage. SO ALL OF OUR FAB FOUR are seriously winging it, with no one to turn to for real guidance or advice.
So given the above, no wonder Vincent and Catherine are territorial of their space, since things have lasted a heck of a lot longer than relationships. And no wonder that they have NO IDEA how to have those deep, meaningful relationship talks that we want. IT IS a lot like adolescents stumbling around in the dark!
And these two have spent A LOT of years learning to hunker down by themselves. So YES, there will be a LONG way for them to go, and we will take for granted that they should have been further along than they are.
If you think about it, this episode makes SENSE and is NECESSARY. And Vincent will want MORE of a relationship with Catherine than just knowing that his Beast will listen to her--he wants to relate to her in EVERY way, including his human side! Yet, technically, their professions, which are the end-all, be-all of their existences, are actually VERY different and ALL-consuming. (SERIOUSLY--do any of you know a COP married to a DOCTOR? Me either.)
So I will TRY to keep an open mind when I see this one and realize that just because they have the LOVE and the PASSION, doesn't mean that they have the day-to-day knowledge and skills for the REGULAR things that happen in a relationship. They have just had DIRE stuff up until this point--so the LITTLE stuff will throw them!
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Post by lovebatb on Jun 15, 2015 19:04:57 GMT -5
Watched the episode and i love it: yes I admit that it is different in a way from the previous one, like there were two different lines in one show, but I think there is a correlation: E1 was about the new re-born couple that is trying to gain a steady situation putting the commitment to an higher level (from BF - GF to living together and ready to get married). But soon they realize that it is not enough. In E2 they return to be individual persons that are struggling to find a compromise and are both afraid of not being able to define their own spaces in the life-couple (Cat is defending her territory, and with this she is defending her little world that makes her feel secure). And that is why IMO there isn't that chemistry love-bubble of E1. Vincent/Cat first scenes: I was watching the episode during the lunch break at work and I burst down in a laugh before trying to contain myself due to the presence of my workmates. Jay is very funny and yes he is overacting but I think he did this on purpose and it is not a wrong interpretation: Vincent is very surprised by how his body is reacting to Cat's questions, assertions etc... and he is trying to contain the beast inside that is not under control. He has to collect all his strength for not beasting out and he has to emphasize and put to extreme his "human" movements in order to hide beast movements that Cat could easily recognize. I admit that if we go on watching E2 from E1 finale, that scene could seem a little odd Vincent/Heather scene: poor Vincent! maybe he wants to forget his problem with a regenerative shower in Cat's company (and that could have been a very hot scene...) but his bubble dream is destroyed by Heather. And that is not the worst thing: Heather is living the result of a man that wasn't able to go over his commitment problems so Vincent mirrors his own situation instead of forget that. plus the awkward moment with the shower, plus Heather's questioning... he can only beasted out (I love when he starts to roar while drinking some orang juice just to refresh his idea) Vincent/JT: go bromance go! Video games are the best way to calm nerves down. JT: finally JT has his story, he is involved in first person and not only as a shadow of Vincent. What really happened with his miracle cure? we have to find it out during the season. And I want for him more screen time, Austin deserved it. I think that at the end we will have not two leads and two main characters but four main characters. JT/Tess: brotherhood problem even for them, but at this point it is not clear if JT reaction at the polygon was due to a regained self confidence or to something related to the cure. We will see. I love JT and Tess playing video games together and Tess wearing a T-shirt with the periodic table and man boxer: she is so like JT. I think that is a way to show that they are more similare than we expected. The case of the week: what I found interesting in it is the mix of real medical problems with supernatural experimenting for superpowered human. IMO it could be that experiments were started into some hospital and that could be another contact point with Vincent. I didn't expected the death of Agent Thomas. Catherine/Vincent final scene: a little romance and some compromise could save the couple and for the first time they are really trying to leave their work, friend's need etc behind when they are together (don't answer at phone call) IMO E2 presents them all as human with their problems that would seem little if confronted to the strange forces that they are call to fight, but are what takes them grounded in reality when everything around them is getting weird. About some repetition: even Vincent asked Cat if she will have to go on repeating him to calm down in order to stop the beast. So my two cent is that they will fins soon a proper way and Vincent will find the strength to not passing the limit into himself. About the mood of the episode: I didn't find it light at all! There are a lot of big issue about superhuman, JT's serum, Vincent work that are all peaces of a bigger puzzle and every single peaces could lead to a very dark and heavy situation. A little and well played funny moment is alway wellcome. Maybe Jay and Austin are more into those kind of things than KK
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Post by susy on Jun 15, 2015 19:08:21 GMT -5
I think we tend to forget just what lives Vincent and Catherine had BEFORE the show ever started. Vincent spent 10 years in a warehouse with no one but JT. Basically, Vincent had chess, video games, lab stuff, and television. And the television was his only real link to the outside world and the passage of time. Vincent would always desperately need to get out into the world, but would have to huddle against a wall when people passed, unable to get involved and just watch life pass him by. Emotionally-stunted all the way. And Catherine made her work her priority to the exclusion of everything else in her life. She had her work. Then she came home. Those were the only REAL SPACES that she was comfortable in. (I mean, even WITH VINCENT MISSING, she couldn't do anything else but concentrate on his case AND paint her apartment from top to bottom. Which in retrospect, SAYS something about her. She couldn't control ANYTHING else but her own APARTMENT.) Because she couldn't ever really commit, didn't really want to commit, or just didn't have the time or energy to put into a relationship, WE KNOW (especially from her words in "Insatiable") that she never had any relationship that every went anywhere beyond the physical. And per her words to Vincent, the guys never really stayed around long enough after it got physical. And that was more because Cat couldn't or wouldn't put the time or any piece of her emotionally-stunted self into the relationship. So when you think about it, you can see how this AMAZING love can be there while still dealing with people that actually know little about the day-to-day interactions with the other person. They were always on missions or in hiding before, with people closing in on them. Normal dates just never really DID get a chance to happen. (And their STUFF and their individual SPACE was all that was there for them through it all.) And as much as Season 2 damaged us the viewers, it damaged them even more, bringing up old insecurities as well as creating new securities. So when you think about it, ALL these two ever had was 1) a mission or calling or having to hide and 2) their stuff, which sure lasted longer than anything else around them. It was the one thing they could control. And although this EPIC LOVE is between them, their emotional growth was stunted WAY back when, and they certainly can't look to the OTHER person to be the mature emotional one because they are BOTH in the same situation. With the same insecurities. And each feels unworthy of love STILL. You SAW in 301 just how much Catherine figured she had damaged the relationship with Vincent permanently, just in TALKING with the agents. She really didn't think Vincent would be able to get past it. Quite frankly, after all that they had been through, the last thing she expected was that proposal. She just didn't think Vincent was in the place (and based on her actions/speech at the bridal shop, neither was she). So this is two people BLINDLY PANICKING in moving forward. Vincent can't figure out why Cat would say yes, knowing that beast-issues may mean she IS always having the burden of talking him down from the ledge. So why would she want to stay? And for Catherine, why would the doctor with the bright future want her, of all people, who is bound to track down these people that were the same type that brought about the death of her parents. So Vincent and Catherine now KNOW for sure what they want. They WANT, more than anything, to be together. BUT they can't trust it. Their individual insecurities and having been so traumatized and emotionally-stunted, relationship-wise, that they have NO idea how to proceed. And WHO can guide them? Tess clearly CAN'T even depend on her brother, who is an obviously over-competitive moron with the emotional depth of a vegetable. And as Vegetable brother must have brought up, Tess hasn't made great relationship choices herself. And JT was in the same situation as Vincent--we know from "Saturn Returns" that he basically ended up losing every relationship choice he had to hide Vincent's secret and also didn't think he was worthy due to all that baggage. SO ALL OF OUR FAB FOUR are seriously winging it, with no one to turn to for real guidance or advice. So given the above, no wonder Vincent and Catherine are territorial of their space, since things have lasted a heck of a lot longer than relationships. And no wonder that they have NO IDEA how to have those deep, meaningful relationship talks that we want. IT IS a lot like adolescents stumbling around in the dark! And these two have spent A LOT of years learning to hunker down by themselves. So YES, there will be a LONG way for them to go, and we will take for granted that they should have been further along than they are. If you think about it, this episode makes SENSE and is NECESSARY. And Vincent will want MORE of a relationship with Catherine than just knowing that his Beast will listen to her--he wants to relate to her in EVERY way, including his human side! Yet, technically, their professions, which are the end-all, be-all of their existences, are actually VERY different and ALL-consuming. (SERIOUSLY--do any of you know a COP married to a DOCTOR? Me either.) So I will TRY to keep an open mind when I see this one and realize that just because they have the LOVE and the PASSION, doesn't mean that they have the day-to-day knowledge and skills for the REGULAR things that happen in a relationship. They have just had DIRE stuff up until this point--so the LITTLE stuff will throw them! I totally agree with you. I would add that Cat has no brothers and Vincent no sisters so they have none experience on managing other genre perspective. They are so used to make their own decisions that they have also issues about how to face threats, they want to be a team but they are not there yet. I think these two issues are the two things all the season is going to be about to discover "Who we are?", maybe sometimes we will see it in a dramatic way others will give as some fun as in this episode, but I wouldn't expect these issues to be solved until the end of the season. I like the episode, not so romantic as first one but it has funny situations and I'm happy they talk more and better than S2. I have to say that once more I love Jay's work, he is so good no matter if it is drama, romance or funny situations, I would really love to have the opportunity to see him in other shows or any movie.
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jun 15, 2015 19:29:06 GMT -5
It's been a while since I truly dealt in reviews, long ones BUT things change. How do I begin? First and foremost after last weeks premiere episode I didn't have much expectation for this episode. To be truly honest I think that maybe this season Beast Of Wall Street is the cream of the crop for this year as Beast Is The New Black was for many last year or UNTIL this season finale. With that said we can't compare ONE with the OTHER. It isn't fair. Many have said that this show is about Drama, action, romance and angst, I partially agree with you BUT since this show's subject matter is sort of grim a little humor doesn't hurt. I think the writers tried to 'address' the characters faults through comedy rather then seriousness cause if you think about it the issues these two will face NOT by the threats surrounding them but within their relationship is mind boggling. A few observations from my watch: I think the writers were showing us the insecurities that BOTH characters face when the realization hits them that they are COMMITTING to each other. The first scene as Vincent is bringing in the boxes and having Catherine question 'his' stuff, the fact that he 'wants' to have things in 'THEIR' apartment and Catherine being SELFISH is the idea here. Last season many fans didn't like the fact that Catherine was being pushy hence the outcome of the roof scene in KIDNAPPED. Catherine wants what she wants as Tess mentioned in the scene right after. This issue is HUGE for Catherine cause from her own admission she's never wanted the picket fence and all that jazz until Vincent. So even if she wants it now, she has to learn that it takes two to tango and not just by doing the ( sorry had to say it) Vincent on the other hand, was engaged to Alex but going off to war and becoming a beast, I truly believe he didn't know what COMMITMENT truly was. Now he has also been with JT for over 10 years. All many stuff LOL so he too has to adjust not only to the COMMITMENT but to Catherine and her ways as well FULL TIME LOL, it's much easier to accept someones fault from far away, so I took that scene as though when he saw how demanding she was, he freaked out, hence having BEAST wanting come out to play. As for the acting here, I thought it was a bit over the top BUT Vincent reminded me a few times of 'KEVIN' from Go Girls. Catherine and Tess scene was as usual liked their chemistry as a team. Although I was glad that Tess called her out on being too pushy and always wanting what she wants without taking anything into consideration. Again this goes back to season 2 for me. I loved loved the boys playing their video games, the talk between them was so MANLY. Tess and JT and the brothers scene, liked that a lot, I'm guessing being the only girl and a cop the brothers would pick on her. Loved that JT defended her BUT a big BUT, I don't like JT and T as a couple LOL, I feel their relationship is 'forced'..No chemistry as a couple IMO I'm a Sci-Fi type of gal, X-Files, Terminator movies and such so when I saw 'electric man's' gift I was like "HOW COOL!!" LOL I understood the dude even though he killed someone, I felt sorry for him in the end. (great acting BTW the guy was real good) Heather and Vincent and that SHOWER scene, okay I knew that HEATHER would be the one in the shower and Vincent walks in on her thinking it was Catherine so it didn't surprise me. As for the acting LOL Once again Vincent reminded me of KEVIN from Go Girls LOL his expressions, his surprise, his apology, his embarrassment of seeing Heather! Loved the expressions. Nicole did a great job too LOL, I knew she and her boyfriend were toast since last season LOL I loved the banter between Vincent/Heather, Vincent/Catherine and Heather while V was on the phone. That was too funny. Loved Catherine and Vincent working together at that warehouse. Catherine knows something is going on with Vincent but as usual Vincent doesn't want to tell her, he wants to get the bad guy. I love the special effects on the 'electricity thingy the man did to get away from them. Again sci-Fi buff here. VinCat car scene, again I thought it was funny, especially when Heather calls, LOL , VIncent knew as soon as he heard Heather that he was in DEEP POOP!! LOL, The interactions with Heather and Catherine and trying to explain everything was funny. Especially the line that Heather said "This is a bad time isn't it?" And VinCat in sinc say Vincent : "YES!" Catherine : "NO!" and they look at each other LOL By the time they hang up with Heather he has to explain to her his "ISSUE" of course Catherine didn't take it well and makes a sharp turn that throws Vincent against the passenger car window LOL.. Can you say "MAD?" But they know that those issues have to wait they have to save JT Bad dude after JT and JT making a serum, reminds me of the Gabe fiasco LOL I hope it doesn't backfire on JT in the long run. I thought the interaction at the hospital was very well played by Austin and the actor. The Vincent/Catherine/Tess scene at the hospital was great! I loved how Catherine had doubts about Vincent being able to control himself and TESS on the other hand was willing to give him the benefit of a doubt. She told her to trust him. Catherine of course said she couldn't cause they both had to much to lose. Vincent fights electric man, Once again , I love the fight sequence, loved the make up on Vincent this season, it looks more 'real'. Of course the fight ended when Catherine 'talked them both down' . Okay so the part above of Catherine always bringing Vincent down is repetitive but I am beginning to think there is a REASON for that. Which I will not go into cause it's a episode thread and it can't be written as per spoiler or possible spoiler LOL The Cat in the hospital corridor scene was nice, LOVED the way that Catherine touched his face!! (LOVED WHEN SHE DID THAT IN SEASON 1 AND NOW) Loved how she said, "See you at home?" and he replied "Yeah, see ya at home." Agent Thomas scene with Vincent was ONE clue as ONE of the story lines. We know JT and his miracle drug can be a problem for them in the long run, what is it? What will happen to JT if anything? That's a continuing storyline. The final scene with Tess and JT, It felt like a friend staying over to play video games. AGAIN no romantic chemistry between those two. To long of a scene for me. the final scene Cat and Heather, LOVED it LOL very to heart and right to the point on Catherine's part. Love the sister bond ( I was ONE who loathed HEATHER but she's truly grown on me) Love the kiss on the cheek she gave Vincent, (yes in my country we kiss people on the cheek too) The final scene gave me hope, both expressing their fears and trying to move forward. This is what a HEALTHY relationship needs to thrive. They admit they have a long way to go and Catherine shows HIM she's willing to compromise to make the relationship work. Vincent promises to be more open about his fears. Relationships are a FULL TIME JOB LOL take it from someone who has been in one for 40 years. It isn't easy and that's just 'normal' people let alone a man who is half beast LOL cut them some slack! The fact that Agent Thomas died means he indirectly stumbled upon something ..they wouldn't have killed him if he didn't He just didn't know it. My Beastie Buddies had a COW with this episode, most of them at least BUT I truly enjoyed it. I mean this isn't Beast Of Wall Street after all and that's okay cause sorry folks THAT episode is the Best they come! Very few will top that ONE ever! That one is up there with Bridesmaid Up, Tough Love and AMP. On a closing note: Anything I get from this show is a PLUS, we've been through a lot since season one and always in the bubble. Season 2 was rough and in many instances hard to watch ANCESTORS LOL but I have passed that stage and look forward to the rest of these characters journeys, I am so honor to experience it with them and YOU. Now I look forward to next episode Y
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Post by lovebatb on Jun 15, 2015 19:44:34 GMT -5
8DGreat review, VinCat- 3.0!
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Post by mocha83 on Jun 15, 2015 20:34:50 GMT -5
What VinCat-3.0 said. I couldn't have said it better. good job!
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