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Post by Chymere on Jun 22, 2015 6:45:40 GMT -5
Vincent and catherine have not been together for 500 years and this is not what i want to watch on my tv screen, where is the real romance? I real feel sherri’s and jennifer’s absence – they really could write vincat. The heart and soul of the show is the relationship between Vincent and Catherine! I totally agree with you here, I feel a lack of Vincat's romance and their deep connection even if I love their scenes and they are cute. Yes! Sherri and Jennifer miss me! And that way they shoot them this season so far always with the same angle when they kiss, maybe this is secondary here but it's drive me crazy! So I like the episode, the action but it lack of Epic passion, essential at VinCat and for me!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 7:29:29 GMT -5
Maybe I don't understand well what you mean for epic love/moment but I think that in S1 and S2 they don't know or they are not sure if the other person feels the same kind of love and then everything is against them so they have to take every single moment to be together even in unusual circumstances. Now they are aware that they love each other and the last step is already taken: they are getting married so they know that they are so in love to take the last step. In my experience I felt a kind of epic love (more intense and more consuming) when I wasn't sure about the other person's feeling. They are now trying to have a normal life so that means even normal couple's dynamics that can lead to romanticism and cuteness but not epic love because they don't have to struggle for each other. IMO later they will realize that to take the couple alive they need to create small pieces of epic love
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 22, 2015 7:48:18 GMT -5
Maybe I don't understand well what you mean for epic love/moment but I think that in S1 and S2 they don't know or they are not sure if the other person feels the same kind of love and then everything is against them so they have to take every single moment to be together even in unusual circumstances. Now they are aware that they love each other and the last step is already taken: they are getting married so they know that they are so in love to take the last step. In my experience I felt a kind of epic love (more intense and more consuming) when I wasn't sure about the other person's feeling. They are now trying to have a normal life so that means even normal couple's dynamics that can lead to romanticism and cuteness but not epic love because they don't have to struggle for each other. IMO later they will realize that to take the couple alive they need to create small pieces of epic love I completely agree that there is a reason for all this happening... but this is a 13 episode season with 10 episodes left...I will just have to wait patiently to see how they develop that relationship...
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Post by tonysol on Jun 22, 2015 7:50:17 GMT -5
Maybe I don't understand well what you mean for epic love/moment but I think that in S1 and S2 they don't know or they are not sure if the other person feels the same kind of love and then everything is against them so they have to take every single moment to be together even in unusual circumstances. Now they are aware that they love each other and the last step is already taken: they are getting married so they know that they are so in love to take the last step. In my experience I felt a kind of epic love (more intense and more consuming) when I wasn't sure about the other person's feeling. They are now trying to have a normal life so that means even normal couple's dynamics that can lead to romanticism and cuteness but not epic love because they don't have to struggle for each other. IMO later they will realize that to take the couple alive they need to create small pieces of epic love I agree @luna76 I think this is a logical and natural progression of Cat and Vincent's relationship. Yes, I loved the epicness of their tortured romance in S1 and I applauded that by the end of S2 they were definitely together with no more people coming in between them. And of course S3 episode 1 with the proposal basically sealed the deal; this is a new stage in their relationship. That doesn't mean that there can't be great, epic moments still, but I think the writers are trying to develop other facets as well. IRL after the romantic love declarations and courtship, the reality sinks in right? How do two strong willed independent characters learn to live together blissfully, with all the give and take that all that entails, yet maintain their individual identities as well? Going forward I have faith that the directors and writers are mindful of what we their core audience want in BatB, so those special, magical moments will come! Watching this episode again, some thing else I realised is that Bob and Carol are the first enhanced people who are NOT victims. They are full aware of their powers and know how to use them as assassins and they also report back to a superior, who may or may not be the mastermind behind all this. Vincent also seemed to be able to control his beastliness without Cat having to talk him down again (thank God!). Also all this takes place 2 weeks after the last episode, so it seems that Vincent's primal issues about moving in with Cat appear to be over or at least not a major issue anymore.
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Post by Chymere on Jun 22, 2015 8:08:32 GMT -5
Can someone help here why carol said "We might need her alive to help us catch him" who??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 8:16:02 GMT -5
Can someone help here why carol said "We might need her alive to help us catch him" who?? I hope they were not talking about Vincent!
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Post by missingalias on Jun 22, 2015 8:24:26 GMT -5
Can someone help here why carol said "We might need her alive to help us catch him" who?? I hope they were not talking about Vincent! I'm pretty sure they were talking about V. but that will make some amazing tv, and some memorable Vincat "happy to have you back" moments.
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Post by tonysol on Jun 22, 2015 8:55:23 GMT -5
It's Vincent. For a moment there I thought Bob was really going to shoot Cat and I thought: "Oh no, not again!" But it seems Bob and Carol need to capture Vincent, maybe to bring back to their boss as a peace offering, since they screwed up the clean up job regarding Agent Thomas. So conceivably Vincent may be captured next week (this is pure speculation, folks, not a spoiler) and Cat and the rest of the Scooby Gang will have to rescue him. Let's hope the episode ends with a proper VinCat "I thought I'd lost you" epic make out session!
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Post by Chymere on Jun 22, 2015 10:06:04 GMT -5
I hope they were not talking about Vincent! I'm pretty sure they were talking about V. but that will make some amazing tv, and some memorable Vincat "happy to have you back" moments. Lol! Ok! my thought also!
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Post by mocha83 on Jun 22, 2015 11:33:51 GMT -5
I haven't seen the show as of yet. I found a link so i can watch.. i'll be back with my two bits. LOL But from reading you guys' analysis, i think BatB is building up to something positively spectactular to look forward to.
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Post by corinne on Jun 22, 2015 12:23:50 GMT -5
Well...well, some mixed comments here....What could I add? Oh I guess nothing because I haven't watched it yet, same like you Mocha, on my way to find it tonight! be back later
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Post by corinne on Jun 22, 2015 13:54:13 GMT -5
Ok fresh reactions
1/ I liked the pace and action of the episode
2/ I thought Bob and Carol new characters were bringing a new dynamic to the show or early season of the show. I prefer that kind of characters to the "anonymous" beast of the week or extraordinary-quality gifted human of the week. And I found Bob and Carol interesting, intriguing, whatever...
3/ I was ok with JT, Tess and Heather, just enough and not too much of them
4/ But I also found we didn't have enough of the real special Vincat. Now, can we expect to feel their special connection now that they are together, as intensely as we did before? I don't know. I hope so. Maybe it's just too early in the new threats matters, for them to really see their love and destiny challenged, for them to have to talk about important, soul fulfilling matters...or face dangers that will push them to re-prove and reassert their incredible connection. But I must say that the marriage arrangement discussions, or light stuff about day to day life didn't annoy me. I mean that's part of real couples's type of discussion anyway, so I'm okay with this.
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Post by jefferen on Jun 22, 2015 14:33:51 GMT -5
I really think all theses opinions/reviews are because we all want to see something different within the show and because we keep comparing all seasons to each other. As much as I loved S1 VinCat this VinCat I feel like is more mature and more of an adult relationship. They are progressing exactly how I imagined they would. And as much as I loved S1 VinCat, I wouldn't want to go back, they have come so far and I don't think I'd want to see Vincent being all self loathing and feeling sorry for himself 24/7 and if you think about it a lot of those swoon worthy lines stemmed from Vincent's insecurities. You could tell he loved her but felt like he didn't deserve her, even after they got together. I couldn't imagine this Vincent saying some of those lines. The lines we have gotten, I feel are words & actions that would be said by a couple that is this far into their relationship. And he gives me goosebumps every time he calls Cat "Babe". That chemistry is still very much alive and fullfilling. And this show still stands out to above all the rest no matter where it takes us. If any other actors were playing these parts, it wouldn't work, even S1 wouldnt have worked. That chemistry is what makes it & they have that regardless of the circumstances that play out on our screens. And that's why keeps me coming back is because that chemistry in all shapes & forms is like drug to me lol. I really enjoyed 303, and where it's heading the storyline, I'm so intrigued by it. I've never since this show started been intrigued really by the storyline, the chemistry is what intrigued me, but I feel very fortunate and happy that finally I'm getting both! It feels great.
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Post by Chymere on Jun 22, 2015 14:39:09 GMT -5
Ok fresh reactions 1/ I liked the pace and action of the episode 2/ I thought Bob and Carol new characters were bringing a new dynamic to the show or early season of the show. I prefer that kind of characters to the "anonymous" beast of the week or extraordinary-quality gifted human of the week. And I found Bob and Carol interesting, intriguing, whatever... 3/ I was ok with JT, Tess and Heather, just enough and not too much of them 4/ But I also found we didn't have enough of the real special Vincat. Now, can we expect to feel their special connection now that they are together, as intensely as we did before? I don't know. I hope so. Maybe it's just too early in the new threats matters, for them to really see their love and destiny challenged, for them to have to talk about important, soul fulfilling matters...or face dangers that will push them to re-prove and reassert their incredible connection. But I must say that the marriage arrangement discussions, or light stuff about day to day life didn't annoy me. I mean that's part of real couples's type of discussion anyway, so I'm okay with this. I guess the fact they are together, I mean live in the same flat and try to live a normal life makes them a little less spicy.This is the risk to put VinCat in this situation, be engaged and fall into the routine and as a result loose a bit passion, intensity... I like the episode as a whole and I am ok with wedding stuffs, i think we had to go through it but not too long. I just hope they will move forward to something with more dangers and intrigues that will push them to re-prove and reassert their incredible connection like you said.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Jun 22, 2015 14:44:45 GMT -5
Ok fresh reactions 1/ I liked the pace and action of the episode 2/ I thought Bob and Carol new characters were bringing a new dynamic to the show or early season of the show. I prefer that kind of characters to the "anonymous" beast of the week or extraordinary-quality gifted human of the week. And I found Bob and Carol interesting, intriguing, whatever... 3/ I was ok with JT, Tess and Heather, just enough and not too much of them 4/ But I also found we didn't have enough of the real special Vincat. Now, can we expect to feel their special connection now that they are together, as intensely as we did before? I don't know. I hope so. Maybe it's just too early in the new threats matters, for them to really see their love and destiny challenged, for them to have to talk about important, soul fulfilling matters...or face dangers that will push them to re-prove and reassert their incredible connection. But I must say that the marriage arrangement discussions, or light stuff about day to day life didn't annoy me. I mean that's part of real couples's type of discussion anyway, so I'm okay with this. I guess the fact they are together, I mean live in the same flat and try to live a normal life makes them a little less spicy.This is the risk to put VinCat in this situation, be engaged and fall into the routine and as a result loose a bit passion, intensity... I like the episode as a whole and I am ok with wedding stuffs, i think we had to go through it but not too long. I just hope they will move forward to something with more dangers and intrigues that will push them to re-prove and reassert their incredible connection like you said. fully agree. i am hopeful too - lets see what happens. maybe the councillor sorts them out lol but we need more danger and more longing. more passionate moments. they need to remember who they are and what is important to them - and their chemistry needs to shine through
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