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Post by mocha83 on Jun 13, 2015 19:02:38 GMT -5
Me likey this one the best. lol thanks for the info. can't wait to see episode two.
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Jun 13, 2015 22:56:42 GMT -5
Me always likey-likey handsome Vincent as well.
To answer one question that others have asked: WAY back in "The Pilot," Tess states that ALL of Vincent's next of kin are dead, so they can't go question them. That is why they have to go to his former hospital to start questioning people about that. So it meant that in addition to the brothers, the parents were also shown to have been dead. We don't know when that was that they died. We know from "Hothead" that William wanted Vincent to go back to medical school because he didn't want their mother to ever face the possibility of loosing all three of her sons.
My own personal belief is that Vincent would NEVER have gone to Afghanistan, despite his beliefs and feeling compelled to carry on the fight in his brother's name, if his mother had still been alive. And Vincent asks JT in 301 for the box "of his mother's things" that he left with JT BEFORE he went to Afghanistan.
Although I may later be found to be wrong, I just always sort of assumed that Vincent's mother is so HEARTSICK from loosing 2 of her children that she just wasted away/dies from the shock/pain soon after 9/11. Leaving Vincent with further grief and reason to want revenge. So he joined the army THEN, right after her funeral. Would also explain WHY Vincent had a box of JUST his mother's stuff--would have been just after her death.
Plus, ALSO explains why VINCENT is the one to have his mother's engagement ring--she had still been alive and not given it yet to ANY of her children at the time the brothers' died. Since Vincent was the only remaining son at her death, he got the ring. Vincent was supposedly already engaged to Alex at the time. He COULD have chosen to give the ring to Alex right then, but INTERESTINGLY enough, he does NOT give it to her. I think that they had already drifted apart with Alex having no idea of how to comfort Vincent through all these deaths. Because Vincent has JT keep his stuff, NOT ALEX.
So Vincent's early "love" of Alex was more like a puppy-love, in my opinion, of two people that had known each other for so long that it seemed right to marry, given their common goals. But when the real manure hit the fan, Vincent didn't really have that kind of bond with Alex AT ALL and couldn't share or find a life with her anymore. Another reason for a fresh start with the army. Vincent still ended up writing Alex and pretending that he would be coming back to her, in an effort to ground himself to SOMETHING of his past. But I am CONVINCED that Vincent's OWN ACTIONS around Alex show that he was ALWAYS used to putting on a front/a show for her and being what he THOUGHT he should be to her. And he was never really happy with that old life when confronted with the PASSION that a life with Catherine brings. THAT was real love, not what he had with Alex.
Now WHY I bring up ALEX here --I see "Primal Fear" as being Vincent's real first attempts at actually LIVING with a female that ISN'T just interested in playing at doing what he wants. Tori and Alex just wanted Vincent and were just sort of there, doing what he wanted, without really asserting themselves. Catherine, however, has always been fiercely independent and on her own. Heather moves into the apartment with her, BUT IT IS CLEAR that it is and always would be CATHERINE's apartment. So Catherine chose the decorations and coloring. And Catherine hasn't had to answer to anyone. And Vincent has now become just as fiercely protective of his things as she has of hers. And behind all that PASSION is to people that just LOVE to fight.
I admit that I LOVED those Vincent/Catherine fights from early Season 1. I am looking forward to seeing them return. They were OFTEN about petty somethings that could underscore bigger issues over time, EXACTLY what we will see here in this episode. Season 1 VINCAT so often made battlegrounds out of issues. They are both equally stubborn and have equally fought SO HARD for the right to as much of a normal life as possible, so EACH will want their life to be on THEIR TERMS with THEIR own things and schedules.
And VinCat has never really solved many of their issues without "help." Intervening people, either friends or foes, have helped mover them forward always. So why NOT couples counseling? Gives another perspective because goodness knows, VinCat can't EVER move away from the position that they have dug themselves into WITHOUT help.
And REMEMBER, poor Catherine was ALWAYS subjected to THERAPY as being the potential answer to everything. And HOT DAVID psychologist/therapist from Season 1 WAS able to get Cat to ADMIT her REAL issues and actually more FORWARD. So I can see Cat thinking therapy/couple's counseling could help. HEATHER certainly attributed her maturing and GROWTH to her therapy and all it helped her in moving on from the past. So although Catherine fought therapy as much as her stubborn self would allow, she also found what she needed to ground her and accept her REAL feelings.
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Jun 13, 2015 23:07:03 GMT -5
Even TESS in "Hothead" suggested to Cat that she get therapy over her Vincent issues. Cat then proceeded to tell Tess that SHE was her therapy. And then they got into a barroom brawl! So Cat has PROVEN, time and time again, that without intervention, she REALLY doesn't cope so well with relationship issues! And neither does Vincent! He got into a BEAST brawl that resulted in HOSPITALIZATION at the same time Cat was decking the poor Judge!
So maybe Cat decides that therapy/couples' counseling might be better than her and Vincent's previous "coping" techniques!
(And oh how I WISH that they could have gotten that DAVID guy from Season 1 to do the counseling! That would have been SO great, especially if David asked HOW it ended with that "other" guy, which we all KNOW was Vincent.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 13:18:23 GMT -5
Showcase also aired 301 at 7:00am this morning and will air it again at 6:00pm this evening right before 302! Lots of BatB here in Canada!Exciting ++++++!!!!!!!
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Jun 14, 2015 16:45:10 GMT -5
I will NOT envy the Canadians.
I will not again run down the halls of my office building while threatening to leave for Canada.
I will not wake in the middle of the night wishing to be Canadian.
I will not obsess every waking moment over how the Canadians get to have seen this new ep of BATB a gazillion times before I do.
I will not plot to kidnap a Beastie Canadian. Especially since they WILLINGLY provide me with spoilers (now, if they should suddenly become reluctant to do so, then all bets are off. . . . )
Sigh. How many hours until the Canadians start posting about this episode? That going cold turkey thing regarding spoilers is working for me about as well as it works for VinCat on BATB.
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Post by ijustlovebatb on Jun 14, 2015 18:13:16 GMT -5
Is it to late to be added to link to watch tonight?
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Post by mocha83 on Jun 14, 2015 18:16:57 GMT -5
me too
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Post by texasscotian on Jun 14, 2015 19:11:23 GMT -5
OK... I'm not giving anything away here... I can't give anything away here, cause they F$$##@@^^%$$%^& aired it an HOUR EARLIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So.. US beasties... you may want to double check the air time for Thursday. I came in on the ending, and it thoroughly confused me, cause it wasn't a recap of last week. Sooo... just want to give everyone a heads up, so that no one else has to go code yellow like me!!! This is the closest I could find to a beast, to describe how I reacted once I realized that I was watching the last 5 seconds of tonight's episode:
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Post by mocha83 on Jun 14, 2015 19:19:01 GMT -5
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Jun 14, 2015 23:04:11 GMT -5
Can I just say, the closest comparison to Vincent's Beast side that I have been able to see IS Lou Ferrigno's version of the Hulk from this late 70's/early 80's tv show!! I had JUST been thinking that in regards to 301 and my thoughts about what I might see in 302.
I mean, there are aspects of David Banner's humanity in the Hulk that always keeps him from going too far. But there is ALWAYS that chance that he could hurt innocents unintentionally--this happened to David's girlfriend in one of the episodes when a nightmare causes David to Hulk out in the bedroom and when a girlfriend tried to clean a wound on the Hulk and he ended up bruising her with his primal slap away the pain. And David can never remember what he did as the Hulk while Vincent SEEMS to retain his memories of his beast-side, although his rage has taken over. Still, LOADS of similarities, since the Hulk is often seen as a superhero for HAVING to intervene when his human-side LEAST wanted to!
(But also agree PERSONALLY to feeling JUST like that over HAVING TO WAIT for another episode!!! AUGH!! I survived the hiatus yet can't survive another week!!!)
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Post by AlisongladaboutSeason4 on Jun 15, 2015 14:36:25 GMT -5
Showcase also aired 301 at 7:00am this morning and will air it again at 6:00pm this evening right before 302! Lots of BatB here in Canada!Exciting ++++++!!!!!!! Damn it!!! I'm moving to Canada.
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Post by Laura on Jun 15, 2015 15:58:39 GMT -5
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jun 15, 2015 18:59:59 GMT -5
Am I the only one who can't see this graphic? Since the site went down I haven't been able to see some videos. The Save Each Other Header is missing on my page. Is anyone else not seeing the Header and background?
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Post by VinCat❤Destined on Jun 15, 2015 21:35:08 GMT -5
Suzieq ❤️ Beastie The problem with site background is technical. The site originally was designed by the same person that runs KKW and her site is down because of this the pictures of the background are hosted on her site. Her site don't work the graphics here don't work.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jun 15, 2015 22:09:41 GMT -5
Suzieq ❤️ Beastie The problem with site background is technical. The site originally was designed by the same person that runs KKW and her site is down because of this the pictures of the background are hosted on her site. Her site don't work the graphics here don't work. Thanks Yolie!
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