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Post by raniamahd on Oct 21, 2014 16:05:05 GMT -5
Came to look for spoilers as this is the spoiler thread . Might be in the minority but debating the same stuff over and over is getting old. Please for the love of God if you want to carry on the debate of who gets more attention go to the talk about anything thread. I can avoid that one . Will chew off my arm if I hear anymore beasties moaning about the lack of focus on their favourite character in a SPOILER THREAD. OK moan over. Love to all Thank you and yes please can the moderators choose one thread for those who want to complain about the lack focus on their favorite character and/or offense those who don't agree with them ?! the poor fans who just want to enjoy watching the show without reading this broken record or get offended ?! please if its their right to offense anyone here and no one can spare us from this , at least can you make them post those complain and insults in one thread so we can avoid it ?!
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Post by francesca on Oct 21, 2014 16:18:38 GMT -5
Ted Whittall @twhittall · 9m 9 minutes ago @mcdonoughkeely Apparantly working on #BATB. #stillinjail #looksgoodinorange Yess, Daddy Reynolds returns!!! I am really happy and curious about his relationship with Vincent now that he's engaged with his daughter!!
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Post by stephy on Oct 21, 2014 16:34:06 GMT -5
[Thank you and yes please can the moderators choose one thread for those who want to complain about the lack focus on their favorite character and/or offense those who don't agree with them ?! the poor fans who just want to enjoy watching the show without reading this broken record or get offended ?! please if its their right to offense anyone here and no one can spare us from this , at least can you make them post those complain and insults in one thread so we can avoid it ?! See you say you just want to enjoy the show but it's posts like yours in the Redemption thread yesterday which add to the fire. It was reported and correctly edited where you bash the main character of the show. Calling Cat a "heartless hypocrite B**ch". How is that acceptable?! It's bashing. You're repeatedly negative towards Cat. And you wonder why Cat/KK fans are upset in this forum. saveeachother.proboards.com/post/105823This board is small but it's the same small group of Vincent loving posters . How is the board and show to grow when you don't welcome any different opinions. dan, I and others are singled out for our wanting Cat storylines. As a VinCat and KK fan, I can totally see why they don't post in this forum. I repeately seeing double standards on this board. So tired of it.
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Post by anapi -season3baby :) on Oct 21, 2014 16:44:48 GMT -5
[Thank you and yes please can the moderators choose one thread for those who want to complain about the lack focus on their favorite character and/or offense those who don't agree with them ?! the poor fans who just want to enjoy watching the show without reading this broken record or get offended ?! please if its their right to offense anyone here and no one can spare us from this , at least can you make them post those complain and insults in one thread so we can avoid it ?! See you say you just want to enjoy the show but it's posts like yours in the Redemption thread yesterday which add to the fire. It was reported and correctly edited where you bash the main character of the show. Calling Cat a "heartless hypocrite B**ch". How is that acceptable?! It's bashing. You're repeatedly negative towards Cat. And you wonder why Cat/KK fans are upset in this forum. saveeachother.proboards.com/post/105823This board is small but it's the same small group of Vincent loving posters . How is the board and show to grow when you don't welcome any different opinions. dan, I and others are singled out for our wanting Cat storylines. As a VinCat and KK fan, I can totally see why they don't post in this forum. I repeately seeing double standards on this board. So tired of it. hey stephy i am sorry but as a vincat, KK and Jay fan i do think that the vast majority of people in this board root for vincat and love both cat and vincent and are fans of both kk and jay. hey my fingers are burning from voting for the show and KK already and i intend to continue for the duration. rania was angry at cat in this episode as she has been angry about vincent as well and said many things about him too. it is ok to complain about character actions u know. it does not mean she hates on cat, cause i for a fact know she does not at all! so using this one post as an example of people being negative towards cat is very unfair and not representative at all. surely if you go back in the episodes as they aired people here (the majority of peopel in fact) were really not happy about vincents action and were not shy at all to voice their views! i can post hundreds such examples!! so i dont think your post is particularly representative of what is going on in the forum
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Post by raniamahd on Oct 21, 2014 17:34:53 GMT -5
Thanks Ana , yes its really sad how some one read only one post for you in one topic directed partically to this topic only and assume things isn't real at all ! so i don't have the right to criticize how any character behave some time in the show ?! dear stephy if you get really upset a about my opinion on how Cat acted in ep 14 , why won't you try to see my other posts about other eps ? maybe then you would see that i was in her side when she was right as i do with other characters too ? and why don't you go see my post in ep10 rewatch and see what was my opinion om Vincent's behave then ?! i was more bad then what i thought about Cat in ep 14 and why no one got upset or report when dan called those who like Vincent ( elderly women fangirling over Vincent ) and so many other offenses to a lot of women here ! speaking about add to the fire ?!! do you want me to add the links of my posts and his posts to see who add to the fire or personally insult other fans ?! or i shouldn't even bother because you have to be only KK fan and only worship her and her only to get fair treatment in this forum ?! edite : i forget to say i really agree with you about this line (I repeately seeing double standards on this board. So tired of it.) i am tired of the double standard too but as dear Ana said you have no idea whats going on here ! and you don't know for whose favor those double standard work ?! i always try to accept and respect other opinions , i happen to discussed with some of KK's loyal fans here and they were more than nice and respectable when we disagree with each others , i also have the courage to apologize if i misunderstand their opinion and feel like its a personal offense when it isn't ! ask BeastieBoy who i like to discuss with him like some other KK's fans because he and them are very respectful to others , i never have a problem with disagreement ! i even have no problem when you misjudge me depending on one post you happened to misunderstand its meaning ! i have a problem with personal offenses only ! let me ask you one question and i will forever hold my peace and never post in this forum again if your answer is yes ?! wouldn't you have a problem if someone called you delusional , obsessive with an actor , teenager , an elderly woman fangirling over a younger actor ! all those things and more was written here in this forum to those who are JR or Vincent's fan from one of KK's fan and no one care to even apologize or delete even one word from his posts ! so if you can say to me that you have no problem on someone call you that and judge you because you disagree with his opinion or because you just like a character or an actor he don't like ! so you have my apology and my promise to shut up for ever !
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Post by dan on Oct 21, 2014 17:42:40 GMT -5
"If I hear one more beasties moaning about the lack of attention on their favorite character... "
Easy to say when you're already on the side of the one who's getting all the attention.
Right,sorry let's back to discussing VinCat and Vincent. Obviously That's all it matters here.....
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Post by alwayscrazedbatbfan on Oct 21, 2014 18:28:17 GMT -5
I am EXCITED that Cat's biological father WILL be back for at least an episode of Season 3! Even if he IS still in jail. That does answer one of my questions that I had going into Season 3. I had wondered if Homeland Security would intervene for Bob Reynolds in the same way that they did for Vincent. (I am guessing not as Bob DID admit to doing bad things. So he couldn't be exonerated. He would have to get some kind of actual pardon. Which would draw a lot of attention, particularly from his former enemies or former comrades in Muirfield. And we have certainly seen that Bob doesn't NEED to be free to accomplish a lot from a jail cell.)
I figured that they HAD to bring Bob Reynolds back when talking about Family and an engagement. While Bob SEEMED more open to Catherine's Choice to build a life with Vincent, he may feel ENTIRELY different about her marriage to him AND her career choices, assuming that she chooses to work with Homeland.
And Bob will be able to tell Catherine about any aunts and cousins that she has from his side of the family. Since Bob was a former government agent, he probably didn't tell ANYONE about his daughter. So that will be all kinds of interesting if THEY come looking for HER now! Or vice versa.
And I admit that I do want to see how Vincent handles knowing that Bob will now be HIS family as well once he marries Cat. Episode 222 did show Vincent listing Bob as one of the people that he feared Gabe would go after. So Vincent and Bob BOTH seem open to accepting that they each have a major role in Cat's life. HOWEVER, I am anxious to see if there will be any type of power-struggle between these two, because Bob still has Gabe's old habit of trying to make decisions for Cat's supposed well-being without asking her. Again, the old-school paternalistic approach that Vincent has had trouble with as well in the past as relates to Cat. (I can SO see Cat telling them BOTH off if either falls back to old habits. BUT I really do think Vincent has made enough progress in his own self-growth and trust of Cat to handle her own business.) STILL, there is NOTHING like Family Issues to bring out the Best AND Worst in a character.
It will also be interesting to see Cat deal with this entirely new side of her life. Before, she had only Heather as family left. And how will HEATHER react to Cat having family that she does not have? Will Heather feel left out or will she try to get involved with them for Cat's sake?
This could also present some really funny Bridesmaid issues. In "Bridesmaid Up!" from Season 1, I really LOVED all the havoc caused in Cat's life and her whole questioning of her own identity and whether or not she needed anyone ALL because of how she felt she was treated from the bridesmaids in the episode. Who really WERE trying to be well-meaning. And yet they ALL had issues with the men in their life (one was separated, Heather's boyfriend had just dumped her, and the other one's boyfriend had called off their wedding a couple of times). So Cat's new family and their issues plus Heather's insecurities may get Cat involved in a WHOLE other set of mess. (And probably leaving Vincent internally grateful that he doesn't have all that much family to get involved and make a mess, unless he gets new people as well.)
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Post by BeastieBoy on Oct 21, 2014 23:46:50 GMT -5
Ted Whittall @twhittall · 9m 9 minutes ago @mcdonoughkeely Apparantly working on #BATB. #stillinjail #looksgoodinorange Awesome, Papa Reynolds is back! Still in jail and looks good in orange! LOL!!! I wonder if they'll give him a one time jail pass to attend his daughter's wedding?!
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Oct 22, 2014 0:38:37 GMT -5
I am unable to "like" comments or tag....I would like many of the comments here and wish I could tag you. Personally, I am quite happy being called an elder woman....I believe the word not only refers to age, but also denotes an added component of respect and influence....perhaps the person who used that term intended to complement us; it's very unfortunate that their tone was quite derogatory. I see it just the opposite... "elderly" conjures visions of advanced age, seniors, senior citizens, geriatric, and/or limited abilities based on age, feeble. I think this is offensive. "Elders" may denote respect, seniority or influence, but "elderly" means something entirely different, and refers specifically to "old age," IMO of course. While we are not a bunch of teenagers, for the most part, I think we are anything but "elderly." When I think of "elderly women," I picture nursing homes and walkers, geriatric issues, and the like. I'm not trying to be ageist in my view, simply indicating what the word means to me. I think it is offensive to classify us in this manner. We are not, collectively, the "Golden Girls," not from what I have seen anyway. But I have already voiced my opinion regarding this particular little comment... LOL.
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Post by Chymere on Oct 22, 2014 2:38:06 GMT -5
Ted Whittall @twhittall · 9m 9 minutes ago @mcdonoughkeely Apparantly working on #BATB. #stillinjail #looksgoodinorange Good news! Ted comes back!
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Post by raniamahd on Oct 22, 2014 6:28:28 GMT -5
Ted Whittall @twhittall · 9m 9 minutes ago @mcdonoughkeely Apparantly working on #BATB. #stillinjail #looksgoodinorange Good news! Ted comes back! yeas i am very excited too i was sad when he said it isn't likely to come back in S3 because he was really a good addition to the show , i wish they spend more screen time and storyline on him than what they spend in those meaningless triangles ! that could have been a good drama and more worthy to watch than those triangles !
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Post by SpydancerLovesVincat on Oct 22, 2014 9:00:38 GMT -5
Good news! Ted comes back! yeas i am very excited too i was sad when he said it isn't likely to come back in S3 because he was really a good addition to the show , i wish they spend more screen time and storyline on him than what they spend in those meaningless triangles ! that could have been a good drama and more worthy to watch than those triangles ! LOL! you can say THAT again. Although, not much would have been worse than the love triangle crap. It was just BAD TV. Period. Soap operatic, creatively lacking, 90210/TVD-esque crapola.
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Post by jefferen on Oct 22, 2014 11:47:42 GMT -5
Stuart Gillard @stugillard 22m22 minutes ago
episodes coming up fast and furious. Beautiful writing in 306 by Brad Kern and Gillian Horvath To be directed by @jillcarter
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Post by Mrs Forbes Glass Half Full on Oct 22, 2014 13:43:23 GMT -5
"If I hear one more beasties moaning about the lack of attention on their favorite character... " Easy to say when you're already on the side of the one who's getting all the attention. Right,sorry let's back to discussing VinCat and Vincent. Obviously That's all it matters here..... I respectfully take offense at your comments. You should have used the full quote that went on to say 'IN A SPOILER THREAD' And another point I want to raise is that you do no know me or whose side i am supposedly on. I am in fact SWITZERLAND on the whole Vincent/Catherine attention issue. I look forward to your apology Now back to SPOILERS in a SPOILER THREAD
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Post by Laura on Oct 22, 2014 15:31:52 GMT -5
[Thank you and yes please can the moderators choose one thread for those who want to complain about the lack focus on their favorite character and/or offense those who don't agree with them ?! the poor fans who just want to enjoy watching the show without reading this broken record or get offended ?! please if its their right to offense anyone here and no one can spare us from this , at least can you make them post those complain and insults in one thread so we can avoid it ?! See you say you just want to enjoy the show but it's posts like yours in the Redemption thread yesterday which add to the fire. It was reported and correctly edited where you bash the main character of the show. Calling Cat a "heartless hypocrite B**ch". How is that acceptable?! It's bashing. You're repeatedly negative towards Cat. And you wonder why Cat/KK fans are upset in this forum. saveeachother.proboards.com/post/105823This board is small but it's the same small group of Vincent loving posters . How is the board and show to grow when you don't welcome any different opinions. dan, I and others are singled out for our wanting Cat storylines. As a VinCat and KK fan, I can totally see why they don't post in this forum. I repeately seeing double standards on this board. So tired of it. I really didn't want to get involved in this never-ending discussion about who’s more important and who should be more concentrated on. However, there is a point when you feel you are being “accused” wrongly, and oh so repetitively. People have been pretty vocal about season two. It’s been thoroughly discussed in detail over and over again. I am absolutely fine with this. Although I personally see no point in reiterating things, but hey, there’s no harm in it either. My problem is with the repetitively “accusatory” tone. I am a huge VinCat fan. I didn't know either of the leads before BatB, but now I adore BOTH of them. I am sorry, but I always get the feeling that you either have to be a Kristin’s fan or Jay’s. Why? Because most compliments/posts on “Vincent” are interpreted as solely being a fan of “King Vincent”. I must say, before I type the rest of my post, that I have become a huge fan of Kristin, both as a person and as an actor. I think saying this is necessary, because in my opinion some of her fans from SV days behave exactly the opposite of what I peg her as. I will elaborate on this later. You feel singled out? Why do you keep saying we don’t want more Cat’s story lines? Has anyone EVER said they don’t care about Cat and want more focus on Vincent? Could you please show me one post saying that? Because you keep saying you (as you put it) KK fans don’t feel welcome here, because you want more Cat-centered episodes, and the rest don't. I have never come across such comments/posts, and would be great if you showed me one. You might say (as Dan repeatedly has) that we won’t say so because we are already happy with the way the show is. Well, maybe some are. But that would be a case of disagreement. What does it have anything to do with feeling unwelcome? I, for one, think they both hold equal importance (however, you guys say Beauty comes before The Beast in the title, it’s Kristin’s show, etc.); but I also strongly believe the writers messed up Cat’s character development, so that’s why Catherine -the “character”- has been more subjected to criticism. It’s mainly a writing issue in my opinion (which is the biggest problem of this season). Also, there was the “amnesiac Vincent” factor, which could somehow justify some of the drastic character changes. So if Catherine has taken a lot of flack (more than Vincent) doesn't mean fans are okay with whatever he has done, or that the focus is on him. There are some who have said they only watch the show for Kristin, which is absolutely fine. However, I don’t think anyone has ever said the same about Jay. Yet, “we” (and by that I mean the fans of BOTH Kristin & Jay) are accused of making you feel unwelcome here. I am absolutely irritated by this “You & Us” categorization. You see some people (who claim to be Kristin's fan since SV) on Twitter harassing Jay for not being online; tweeting him disgusting racist comments about his wife; tweeting awful thing to Amber especially after she posted the picture with the chairs and also about her last episode; tweeting The CW and asking them to bring Tom Welling on the show to see who has more chemistry with Kristin (as if we are all in kindergarten, and oh! I’d never realized there was a “who has more chemistry with Kristin” competition); saying that Kristin doesn't want to work on this show anymore and wants to move on (Seriously, how do they know? How can they be so sure about this? Does she email her journal entries to some of her fans?) and that working on BatB is such a waste of her time and talent. Have you ever seen anything remotely close to such tweets directed at Kristin? I have not, and I am thankful for that because firstly, it's absolutely disgusting and inhumane to harrass people like that, and second, I have read about what she had to go through because of some SV fans, who wanted Clark to be with Lois. Oh and you mentioned being tired of “double standards”. That’s how I feel too. I remember members talking harshly about Alex/Tori (and I agreed most of the time with them on Alex, and all the time on Tori), there were rarely “warning posts” telling people to tone it down. My posts got edited because I wasn't nice to Gabe (and this says a lot, because I am person who never uses curses). I strongly felt there was favoritism towards Gabe (being Cat’s boyfriend and all) compared to Tori.
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