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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 8, 2013 9:54:05 GMT -5
Some have said that the finale, "Bridesmaid Up" was to be a 2-part episode. Script # 8 & 9 - Bridesmaid Up was script 8 or reported Episode 9 with Seeing Red as 9 and reported Episode 10. Actors contract for the number of episodes, but if the episodes/scenes are adjusted they still get paid for the # of episodes. Sometimes scenes are cut or scenes filmed out of sequence. (I know we discussed this once for Smallville- an actor's reported # episode contract and the real number of appearances in the episodes ) So BR may well be in Script 9 - 12 ( but in Episode 10 - 13) At least this is how I am trying to understand it? Maybe Jacki has some insight to this because of her expertise. Still...........we need a TITLE for this freakin' episode! Now should this be the case, this means Alex will be in the Valentine’s Day episode, which also means the promo would have comprised of two episodes.
Really hoping Jacki can make some sense of this, my head is literally spinning. For those confused (I still am a bit). Here is a pic from BaTB/KK fan Michelle. Jay sent her this pic for her B-Day (wasn't he sweet!?) Anyway, the script clearly says Episode 1.04 although the media reported Episode 1.05! Here's my theory......If "Bridesmaid Up" (Reported Episode 1.09) was a Two-Parter (originally) it would have been Script episode 8/9! This means BR would have been contracted (4 epis) for Script 8/9, 10, 11. (or reported Episode 9/10, 11, 12) This gives her "4" episodes! I am thinking her last episode is reported Episode 1.12. Since this Episode 1.13 introduces new characters, her arc needs to end (dramatically of course!...Boo Hoo!) and the new Episode 1.13 starts anew story arc. Will they really drag this ALEX character out, with A LOT OF FACETIME AND EMOTIONAL DRAMA for "4" freakin' episodes?? This is just MY speculation.....because I can accept a guest star for 2 or 3 (at the most) episodes but "4"?? Unless, she plays the undisputed "Villian" in this episode, she should not have the "love interest" role for a fifth of a First Season!! Just saying....... When did we know BR was coming to BaTB? Maybe she contracted before the changes in the finale and the extension of the season? To Follow up: I found one of the original articles from TVLine: Dated Nov. 5, 2012. tvline.com/2012/11/05/beauty-and-the-beast-cast-bridget-regan/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter So.............Episode 1.09 was "Bridesmaid Up".......we know she wasn't in that.......again, if this episode at the time was a two-part episode, maybe they counted Ep. 1.09 as one of BR's contracted episodes and it was changed. Therefore, her last episode will possibly be on Episode 1.12..........again, MY speculation. BaTB makes me think too much ......too much speculation, and I promised myself I wouldn't do this again for a TV show. I am such a sucker for the romantic element. I am a VinCataholic!
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Post by oa on Jan 8, 2013 17:52:10 GMT -5
i think that we like it so much that we may be over-thinking everything we post that might happen, maybe these writers are more of the type that think that simple is better...
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Post by hcastro on Jan 8, 2013 19:29:00 GMT -5
Now should this be the case, this means Alex will be in the Valentine�s Day episode, which also means the promo would have comprised of two episodes.
Really hoping Jacki can make some sense of this, my head is literally spinning. For those confused (I still am a bit). Here is a pic from BaTB/KK fan Michelle. Jay sent her this pic for her B-Day (wasn't he sweet!?) Anyway, the script clearly says Episode 1.04 although the media reported Episode 1.05! Here's my theory......If "Bridesmaid Up" (Reported Episode 1.09) was a Two-Parter (originally) it would have been Script episode 8/9! This means BR would have been contracted (4 epis) for Script 8/9, 10, 11. (or reported Episode 9/10, 11, 12) This gives her "4" episodes! I am thinking her last episode is reported Episode 1.12. Since this Episode 1.13 introduces new characters, her arc needs to end (dramatically of course!...Boo Hoo!) and the new Episode 1.13 starts anew story arc. Will they really drag this ALEX character out, with A LOT OF FACETIME AND EMOTIONAL DRAMA for "4" freakin' episodes?? This is just MY speculation.....because I can accept a guest star for 2 or 3 (at the most) episodes but "4"?? Unless, she plays the undisputed "Villian" in this episode, she should not have the "love interest" role for a fifth of a First Season!! Just saying....... When did we know BR was coming to BaTB? Maybe she contracted before the changes in the finale and the extension of the season? To Follow up: I found one of the original articles from TVLine: Dated Nov. 5, 2012. tvline.com/2012/11/05/beauty-and-the-beast-cast-bridget-regan/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter So.............Episode 1.09 was "Bridesmaid Up".......we know she wasn't in that.......again, if this episode at the time was a two-part episode, maybe they counted Ep. 1.09 as one of BR's contracted episodes and it was changed. Therefore, her last episode will possibly be on Episode 1.12..........again, MY speculation. BaTB makes me think too much ......too much speculation, and I promised myself I wouldn't do this again for a TV show. I am such a sucker for the romantic element. I am a VinCataholic! SuzieQ, I think your speculation is correct. If that's the case, then 1.12 should be Ex's last episode...good, because isn't 1.13 supposed to fall on Valentine's day? Hoping that the writers are aware of that and give us some awesomesauce VinCat lovin'. If so, I would be thrilled if it turns out that way with the Ex out of the picture for good hopefully and VinCat having a good romantic moment or two for Valentine's day.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 8, 2013 21:08:25 GMT -5
SuzieQ, I think your speculation is correct. If that's the case, then 1.12 should be Ex's last episode...good, because isn't 1.13 supposed to fall on Valentine's day? Hoping that the writers are aware of that and give us some awesomesauce VinCat lovin'. If so, I would be thrilled if it turns out that way with the Ex out of the picture for good hopefully and VinCat having a good romantic moment or two for Valentine's day. Exactly, hcastro....I know writer's work episodes around a holiday theme lots of times. BaTB AND Valentine's Day......it's corny, but it really is perfect timing to get these two together! Also, this episode does not have a Title yet! Hmmmm.....coincidence? I think not. I think someone stated that before Winter break, BaTB was finishing up scripted Episode 1.12? Plus, didn't BR say that she was finished her time with BaTB? Therefore, they are starting on this episode now? I wonder............Maybe someone can TWEET that question to Jay or Austin?
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Post by pippin on Jan 8, 2013 23:19:00 GMT -5
SuzieQ, I think your speculation is correct. If that's the case, then 1.12 should be Ex's last episode...good, because isn't 1.13 supposed to fall on Valentine's day? Hoping that the writers are aware of that and give us some awesomesauce VinCat lovin'. If so, I would be thrilled if it turns out that way with the Ex out of the picture for good hopefully and VinCat having a good romantic moment or two for Valentine's day. Exactly, hcastro....I know writer's work episodes around a holiday theme lots of times. BaTB AND Valentine's Day......it's corny, but it really is perfect timing to get these two together! Also, this episode does not have a Title yet! Hmmmm.....coincidence? I think not. I think someone stated that before Winter break, BaTB was finishing up scripted Episode 1.12? Plus, didn't BR say that she was finished her time with BaTB? Therefore, they are starting on this episode now? I wonder............Maybe someone can TWEET that question to Jay or Austin? Hi Suzie, I posted this in the general spoilers thread: Spoiler TV appears to be using the script episode numbers when they are revealing the episode titles so I think that the names of the threads in this section are off by one -- so script #109 (episode 1x10) is Seeing Red, Script #110 (episode 1.x11) is on Thin Ice, which matches the picture Jay Ryan tweeted, Script #111 (ep 1x12) will reportedly be called Cold Turkey and Script #112 (ep. 1x13) the last episode that Bridget Regan filmed is called Trust No One, that also matches a pic Ryan tweeted. of course the episode titles can change as Bridesmaid Up was first reported as Will You Be Thine or something along those lines. I think the 13th script title (episode 1x14) hasn't been revealed yet. That is the first one that the DA will appear in. Read more: saveeachother.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=spoilers&action=display&thread=39&page=19#ixzz2HRrFCdz6
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Post by debbyts on Jan 9, 2013 0:46:30 GMT -5
should be Seeing Red, On thin Ice Cold turkey and trust no one. i could be wrong
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Post by Reyna on Jan 9, 2013 1:16:51 GMT -5
Okay, still a little confused, yet now everything is beginning to make sense. If you are right SuzieQ, the BATB writers did break up the mid-season finale into two episodes.
1.09 (Script Episode 1.08) – Bridesmaid Up
1.10 (Script Episode 1.09) – Seeing Red airs 01.24.13
Yet, could have sworn the BATB writers initially titled this episode as “On Thin Ice”.
1.11 (Script Episode 1.10) – On Thin Ice should air 01.31.13
1.12 (Script Episode 1.11) – Cold Turkey should air 02.07.13
1.13 (Script Episode 1.12) – Trust No One should air 02.14.13
1.14 (Script Episode 1.13) – Any Means Possible should air 02.21.13
Unfortunately, Alex will be in the Valentine’s Day episode unless “Seeing Red” and “On Thin Ice” are indeed the same episode. Really hoping this is not the case.
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Post by hcastro on Jan 9, 2013 1:56:18 GMT -5
If the Ex is still around for the Valentine's Day episode, that would really suck. If she is, hopefully she's saying goodbye for good! I would like the writers to acknowledge it's Valentine's Day and hopefully we get something nice for VinCat fans. I still believe that "Seeing Red" was changed from "On thin Ice". As Pippin recalled, they did seem to change the title of the Bridesmaid up! episode too, so a change of title wouldn't be out of the ordinary. And yes, I think they were filming 1.12 before the break too which coincidentally is when Bridget said she was done filming for BATB. But of course, she could of filmed something for 1.13 which they are filming right now as we speak. Again, so much speculation is making my brain hurt...so few answers!!!!!
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Post by Reyna on Jan 9, 2013 2:05:19 GMT -5
If the Ex is still around for the Valentine's Day episode, that would really suck. If she is, hopefully she's saying goodbye for good! I would like the writers to acknowledge it's Valentine's Day and hopefully we get something nice for VinCat fans. I still believe that "Seeing Red" was changed from "On thin Ice". As Pippin recalled, they did seem to change the title of the Bridesmaid up! episode too, so a change of title wouldn't be out of the ordinary. And yes, I think they were filming 1.12 before the break too which coincidentally is when Bridget said she was done filming for BATB. But of course, she could of filmed something for 1.13 which they are filming right now as we speak. Again, so much speculation is making my brain hurt...so few answers!!!!! OMG Hcastro, I am telling you. Regrettably, this may actually be how the episodes play out. Especially given the fact that episode 1.14 would undoubtedly set the stage for the ADA to make his debut in episode 1.15.
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Post by hcastro on Jan 9, 2013 2:19:37 GMT -5
If the Ex is still around for the Valentine's Day episode, that would really suck. If she is, hopefully she's saying goodbye for good! I would like the writers to acknowledge it's Valentine's Day and hopefully we get something nice for VinCat fans. I still believe that "Seeing Red" was changed from "On thin Ice". As Pippin recalled, they did seem to change the title of the Bridesmaid up! episode too, so a change of title wouldn't be out of the ordinary. And yes, I think they were filming 1.12 before the break too which coincidentally is when Bridget said she was done filming for BATB. But of course, she could of filmed something for 1.13 which they are filming right now as we speak. Again, so much speculation is making my brain hurt...so few answers!!!!! OMG Hcastro, I am telling you. Regrettably, this may actually be how the episodes play out. Especially given the fact that episode 1.14 would undoubtedly set the stage for the ADA to make his debut in episode 1.15. Ugh, Reyna..I hope you are wrong!! That may mean the VinCat relationship is in a fragile state being that Vincent/Ex will have gone their separate ways and there will need to be some time to help repair the hurt feelings that I'm sure both Vincent/Catherine will have whatever the outcome of the Ex's episodes. But if you are right...that means VinCat will be in a vulnerable state with ADA coming into the picture. Though the writers have been teasing a possible romantic vibe between Catherine and this new ADA, recent mentions of the ADA seem to paint him as more power hungry and ambitious..so hopefully, it remains that way. Get away from Catherine you creep!! I really don't want to see anymore triangles after the Ex's 4 episode stint. Need more VinCat.....
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Post by pippin on Jan 9, 2013 2:46:29 GMT -5
If the Ex is still around for the Valentine's Day episode, that would really suck. If she is, hopefully she's saying goodbye for good! I would like the writers to acknowledge it's Valentine's Day and hopefully we get something nice for VinCat fans. I still believe that "Seeing Red" was changed from "On thin Ice". As Pippin recalled, they did seem to change the title of the Bridesmaid up! episode too, so a change of title wouldn't be out of the ordinary. And yes, I think they were filming 1.12 before the break too which coincidentally is when Bridget said she was done filming for BATB. But of course, she could of filmed something for 1.13 which they are filming right now as we speak. Again, so much speculation is making my brain hurt...so few answers!!!!! I was just looking at Spoiler TV and it looks like they are contributing to the confusion by using the script numbers when they reveal the episode titles, but then switching to the episode numbers when they are releasing the promotional photos and videos previews. I don't think the next episode title was changed from On Thin Ice to Seeing Red. Script 109 (episode 1.10) was first called Identity then became Seeing Red sometime in December. But back on Nov. 28th, Jay tweeted a pic of his script 110 (episode 1.11) with the title "On Thin Ice" so I think that title has remained consistent. Now Spoiler TV has revealed the title for script 114 (episode 1.15) as "Any Means Possible" but as far as I can tell, have not released the title for script 113 (episode 1.14) which is when the ADA makes his appearance.
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Post by Reyna on Jan 9, 2013 2:52:26 GMT -5
OMG Hcastro, I am telling you. Regrettably, this may actually be how the episodes play out. Especially given the fact that episode 1.14 would undoubtedly set the stage for the ADA to make his debut in episode 1.15. Ugh, Reyna..I hope you are wrong!! That may mean the VinCat relationship is in a fragile state being that Vincent/Ex will have gone their separate ways and there will need to be some time to help repair the hurt feelings that I'm sure both Vincent/Catherine will have whatever the outcome of the Ex's episodes. But if you are right...that means VinCat will be in a vulnerable state with ADA coming into the picture. Though the writers have been teasing a possible romantic vibe between Catherine and this new ADA, recent mentions of the ADA seem to paint him as more power hungry and ambitious..so hopefully, it remains that way. Get away from Catherine you creep!! I really don't want to see anymore triangles after the Ex's 4 episode stint. Need more VinCat..... That is exactly why my head is spinning right now. Still cannot understand to this day why the BATB writers and producers would do this, especially when BATB is coming up for renewal. It would have been different if we were safe for a second season, yet, as of right now, even with the reruns, BATB is on very shaking ground.
As I mentioned once before, if the ratings for the next couple of episodes are lower than normal, the BATB writers and producers should highly consider cutting scenes and do some major rewrites. Unfortunately, if they do not, for one it will leave us Beasties very disappointed and not to mention it would be one hell of a miracle if the network or any network for that matter to give BATB a second chance.
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Post by Suzieq ❤️ Beastie on Jan 9, 2013 8:08:35 GMT -5
Wow, this is getting more confusing by the minute: More confusion: "Beauty and the Beast Episodes" www.imdb.com/title/tt2193041/episodesValentines's Day Episode 'is, was, maybe' called......... TOUGH LOVE!!! ?? I think "On Thin Ice" was changed to "Seeing Red"! Granted, this maybe old-ish.....but still, this is the first time I saw the title "Tough Love"!! Which makes this updated as we know it: Seeing Red S1, Ep.10 Jan. 24, 2013
Cold Turkey S1, Ep. 11 Jan. 31, 2013
Trust No One S1, Ep. 12 Feb. 7, 2013
"Tough Love" (?) S1, Ep. 13 Feb. 14, 2013
Any Means Possible S1, Ep. 14 Airing Date unknownThis is Crazy!! hcastro, if "Tough Love" is correct, you are right in that this will be some kind of "Love" Theme ie. "Valentine's Day" ! All I have to say is , the Alex chick needs to make a BIG EXIT and Catherine and Vincent need to be in an EXPLOSIVE, MIND-BLOWING, SWOON-WORTHY LIP-LOCK,..............!!Edit: Hi Suzie, I posted this in the general spoilers thread: Spoiler TV appears to be using the script episode numbers when they are revealing the episode titles so I think that the names of the threads in this section are off by one -- so script #109 (episode 1x10) is Seeing Red, Script #110 (episode 1.x11) is on Thin Ice, which matches the picture Jay Ryan tweeted, Script #111 (ep 1x12) will reportedly be called Cold Turkey and Script #112 (ep. 1x13) the last episode that Bridget Regan filmed is called Trust No One, that also matches a pic Ryan tweeted. of course the episode titles can change as Bridesmaid Up was first reported as Will You Be Thine or something along those lines. I think the 13th script title (episode 1x14) hasn't been revealed yet. That is the first one that the DA will appear in. Thanks for reminding me of this too................gosh, this is confusing? The script that Jay Tweeted was "On Thin Ice" and said Script number 1.10 (meaning that it is the title for reported Episode 1.11.) So you are saying, (Correct me if I misunderstand you) and Reyna also, laid it out very nicely (Thanks, I had some of the same questions as you too!) this is the order : Seeing Red S1, Ep.10 Jan. 24, 2013
On Thin Ice S1, Ep. 11 Jan. 31, 2013
Cold Turkey S1, Ep. 12 Feb. 7, 2013
Trust No One S1, Ep. 13 Feb. 14, 2013
Any Means Possible S1, Ep. 14 Airing Date unknownSo, the Valentine's Day Episode would be called "Trust No One".............ugh, how romantic? None of these titles scream potential VinCat "KISS" possibility. I agree with Reyna... "“Seeing Red” and “On Thin Ice” are indeed the same episode"!
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Post by Reyna on Jan 9, 2013 11:00:47 GMT -5
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Post by Reyna on Jan 9, 2013 11:24:02 GMT -5
Here is another problem Suzie Q. If “Seeing Red” and “On Thin Ice” truly are the same episode, then whatever romantic VinCat scenes we will get will be short lived
1.09 (Script Episode 1.08) – Bridesmaid Up
1.10 (Script Episode 1.09) – Seeing Red / On Thin Ice airs 01.24.13
1.11 (Script Episode 1.10) – Cold Turkey should air 01.31.13
1.12 (Script Episode 1.11) – Trust No One should air 02.07.13
1.13 (Script Episode 1.12) – Tough Love should air 02.14.13
1.14 (Script Episode 1.13) – Any Means Possible should air 02.21.13
Yet, on the positive side, if episode 1.13 “script episode 1.12” is indeed “Tough Love” we could have a very pleasant episode. Now according to our prior posts, this should be the last episode BR filmed right. If Alex’s departure is at the beginning of the episode, perhaps VinCat are still giving each other their space, yet something life changing happens to bring them together. Unfortunately, despite things finally going good for VinCat, something else happens in episode 1.14, which captures the attention of the ADA.
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